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[–] cabbage@piefed.social 9 points 4 days ago

No! Misinformation! They are very very dangerous! If you see it, run away as fast as you can, in great panic!!

(they might have a heart attack if you don't, they get really riled up)

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I think the idea is to fuck with AI. Why not, it doesn't really help much, it doesn't do much harm either.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 5 points 6 days ago

I guess this is where the insight that you should judge a society by how it treats its weakest comes from. That's a problem with OP's scenario, as you'd be thrown into a completely foreign context without access to the more family and community-based security nets that are essential in poorer parts of the world.

I have travelled to some not very wealthy regions to small communities that can only be accessed by a 4x4, horse, or motorcycle (or by foot, as I prefer), and seen severely handicapped people in such places live what at least appears from the outside to be highly dignified and decent lives as the community works together to take care of them. It's not at all obvious that they would be happier in a western city. Once anyone needs professional medical care or expensive treatments it of course becomes more clear-cut, and if you're an outsider (or just unlucky) you're of course out of luck.

Taking away enforced regulations on housing, employment, and banking makes things easier for me, not harder

In the short run, maybe, but sawing off the branch one is sitting on is dangerous business. :)

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, in general if you have a good starting point anywhare not affected by tyranny, war, or genocide you'll be alright. Behind a veil of ignorance there's a whole lot of developing countries I'd go to before I'd risk being poor in the United States.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

I wonder what people in this thread think the third world is, and what they imagine living there is like.

It's not like there's a clear answer. I guess technically Sweden is a third world county, while North Korea and Slovenia are both second world. America is as first world as it gets, and it's a fucking mess.

If I could choose my own third world country I'd be quite alright. If they sent me to the worst first world country they could find, well, Alabama.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

I think designing good social media is largely about identifying and removing possible abuse vectors. So if think it's relevant to point it out when I see potential for one. My comment was not really about myself, whatever the hell I do is not very important.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This should probably be clear in the UX - right now it looks like I can downvote and emoji you at the same time, even though that's probably not the case behind the scenes. In a way that risks people accidentally upvoting and giving attention to bad content - I guess I'd personally (in a moment of weakness) throw the 🤡 at leninists or trumpists, voiced I wouldn't want to amplify.

Also - I was confused about some emojis not working, and then I realized they were tabs and that only the buttons below are emojis. Guess it proves how no UX is idiot proof. Also thumbs up is not under the tab illustrated with a thumbs up, which is confusing. :)

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'll try to resist myself, but I think expecting people to behave themselves is a pretty tall order for social media. :/

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I feel like there's a risk of abuse though - I could totally see myself replying to certain things with a 🤡 rather than engaging in a debate, and I'm not sure that's healthy for online culture.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There are people whose concerns it is worth listening to. I'm sure they will show up eventually.

Happy holidays!

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yes, exactly; it's a like with an "emoji": "string" attribute. It's described in the post announcing the feature. :)

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I really like giving with Liberapay! Puts me in full control, gives me a great overview over what I give to different causes, and never bothers me.

All my monthly or weekly donations are actually yearly or in some cases even biannual, in order to minimize transaction costs. But that's of course a matter of preference.

 

Edit: Thanks to @save_the_humans@leminal.space for pointing to this guide by @stdevel@chaos.social—I haven't had further freezes since following the steps in it:

It is sufficient to add the boot parameter amdgpu.dcdebugmask=0x10 in the GRUB configuration (/etc/default/grub):

...  
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="... amdgpu.dcdebugmask=0x10"  
...  

Afterwards the GRUB configuration must be updated and the computer must be rebooted:

# grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg  
# reboot  

Edit: I'm fairly certain @exupulosion@sh.itjust.works got it right when linking it to this unresolved issue.


The title pretty much sums it up. The freezes can happen while I am not doing anything, and while no additional software is running. I don't really know where to start with this one.

Here's journalctl -b -1 -e from the latest crash, as I found online that this could be useful:

okt. 29 16:28:29 framework systemd[2793]: Starting systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service - Cleanup of User's Temporary Files and Directories...  
okt. 29 16:28:29 framework systemd[2793]: Finished systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service - Cleanup of User's Temporary Files and Directories.  
okt. 29 16:32:02 framework systemd[2793]: Starting flatpak-portal.service - flatpak portal...  
okt. 29 16:32:02 framework systemd[2793]: Started flatpak-portal.service - flatpak portal.  
okt. 29 16:32:02 framework systemd[2793]: Started app-flatpak-org.gnome.Geary-307090962.scope.  
okt. 29 16:32:03 framework xdg-desktop-portal[6482]: (xdg-desktop-portal-validate-icon:2): GLib-WARNING **: 15:32:03.036: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (1000)  
okt. 29 16:32:03 framework xdg-desktop-portal[6482]: (xdg-desktop-portal-validate-icon:2): GLib-WARNING **: 15:32:03.036: Could not find home directory: $HOME is not set, and user database could not be read.  
okt. 29 16:32:03 framework xdg-desktop-portal[6482]: (xdg-desktop-portal-validate-icon:2): GLib-WARNING **: 15:32:03.037: Could not find home directory: $HOME is not set, and user database could not be read.  
okt. 29 16:32:03 framework kernel: amdgpu 0000:c1:00.0: [drm] *ERROR* dc_dmub_srv_log_diagnostic_data: DMCUB error - collecting diagnostic data  
okt. 29 16:32:03 framework kernel: amdgpu 0000:c1:00.0: [drm] *ERROR* dc_dmub_srv_log_diagnostic_data: DMCUB error - collecting diagnostic data  
okt. 29 16:32:03 framework kernel: amdgpu 0000:c1:00.0: [drm] *ERROR* dc_dmub_srv_log_diagnostic_data: DMCUB error - collecting diagnostic data  
okt. 29 16:32:13 framework kernel: amdgpu 0000:c1:00.0: [drm] *ERROR* [CRTC:80:crtc-0] flip_done timed out  
okt. 29 16:33:16 framework systemd[1]: flatpak-system-helper.service: Deactivated successfully.  
okt. 29 16:33:16 framework audit[1]: SERVICE_STOP pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 msg='unit=flatpak-system-helper comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostnam>  

journalctl -b -2 -e, just 11 minutes earlier:

okt. 29 16:22:21 framework NetworkManager[1132]: <info>  [1761751341.1716] device (wlp1s0): supplicant interface state: disconnected -> interface_disabled  
okt. 29 16:22:21 framework NetworkManager[1132]: <info>  [1761751341.1721] device (wlp1s0): state change: disconnected -> unmanaged (reason 'unmanaged-sleeping', managed-type: 'full')  
okt. 29 16:22:21 framework systemd[2911]: Starting systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service - Cleanup of User's Temporary Files and Directories...  
okt. 29 16:22:21 framework chronyd[938]: Source 172.232.132.19 offline  
okt. 29 16:22:21 framework chronyd[938]: Source 194.58.202.148 offline  
okt. 29 16:22:21 framework chronyd[938]: Source 172.232.157.27 offline  
okt. 29 16:22:21 framework chronyd[938]: Can't synchronise: no selectable sources (4 unreachable sources)  
okt. 29 16:22:21 framework chronyd[938]: Source 192.36.143.134 offline  
okt. 29 16:22:21 framework NetworkManager[1132]: <info>  [1761751341.1984] device (wlp1s0): set-hw-addr: reset MAC address to F4:4E:B4:15:7E:51 (unmanage)  
okt. 29 16:22:21 framework systemd[2911]: Finished systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service - Cleanup of User's Temporary Files and Directories.  
okt. 29 16:22:21 framework wpa_supplicant[1272]: p2p-dev-wlp1s0: CTRL-EVENT-DSCP-POLICY clear_all  
okt. 29 16:22:21 framework wpa_supplicant[1272]: p2p-dev-wlp1s0: CTRL-EVENT-DSCP-POLICY clear_all  
okt. 29 16:22:21 framework wpa_supplicant[1272]: nl80211: deinit ifname=p2p-dev-wlp1s0 disabled_11b_rates=0  
okt. 29 16:22:21 framework wpa_supplicant[1272]: wlp1s0: CTRL-EVENT-DSCP-POLICY clear_all  
okt. 29 16:22:21 framework wpa_supplicant[1272]: wlp1s0: CTRL-EVENT-DSCP-POLICY clear_all  
okt. 29 16:22:21 framework wpa_supplicant[1272]: nl80211: deinit ifname=wlp1s0 disabled_11b_rates=0  
okt. 29 16:22:25 framework systemd-logind[956]: Power key pressed short.  
okt. 29 16:22:25 framework kernel: amdgpu 0000:c1:00.0: [drm] *ERROR* [CRTC:80:crtc-0] flip_done timed out  
okt. 29 16:22:25 framework systemd-logind[956]: Delay lock is active (UID 1000/redacted, PID 3200/gnome-shell) but inhibitor timeout is reached.  
okt. 29 16:22:25 framework systemd[1]: Reached target sleep.target - Sleep.  
okt. 29 16:22:25 framework systemd[1]: Starting systemd-suspend.service - System Suspend...  
okt. 29 16:22:25 framework systemd[1]: user@1000.service: Unit now frozen-by-parent.  
okt. 29 16:22:25 framework systemd[1]: session-2.scope: Unit now frozen-by-parent.  
okt. 29 16:22:25 framework systemd[1]: user-1000.slice: Unit now frozen-by-parent.  
okt. 29 16:22:25 framework systemd[1]: user.slice: Unit now frozen.  
okt. 29 16:22:25 framework systemd-sleep[7487]: Successfully froze unit 'user.slice'.  
okt. 29 16:22:25 framework systemd-sleep[7487]: Performing sleep operation 'suspend'...  
okt. 29 16:22:25 framework kernel: PM: suspend entry (s2idle)  

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

The laptop is rather new, but with the AMD Ryzen™ 5 7640U w/ Radeon™ 760M Graphics × 12 processor from the previous generation.

 

Of 42 ships in the Global Sumud Flotilla, one made it into the waters outside Gaza. It remains unknown whether they made it to Gaza or if they have been arrested by the Israeli navy just when they were about to enter.

~~While not officially confirmed, the following footage allegedly shows their arrival in Gaza:~~
~~syzito.xyz/@fkamiah17/115304225699538245~~
edit: It seems this post has been taken down, it was probably a video from another occasion.

Other sources claim that the Mikeno too has been captured by Israel: https://mastodon.social/@Al_Quds_News14/115303483176696689

According to Israel via Al Jazeera, they have seized "all but one" of the vessels carrying aid:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/9/2/live-geta-thunberg-once-more-on-board-sumud-flotilla-sailing-for-gaza

This could refer to the Marinette, which is still just north of Cairo, or to the Mikeno, whose status is not confirmed:
https://globalsumudflotilla.org/tracker/

In either case these people are heroes. The person on the right side (their left) top row is the Fediverse's own @Vegard@fribygda.no, who is also the source of this image: https://fribygda.no/@Vegard/115299846437410236

Bonus picture: https://fribygda.no/@Vegard/115299851567351974

Find a protest near you. Demand action from your representatives.

Update:

It is with heavy hearts and sadness that we announce the Global Sumud Flotilla vessel "Mikeno" was seized by the Israeli Navy.

The captain, a hero, defied direct Israeli orders to shut his engine down and seize progression. He then went completely dark, shutting off all electronics and maneuvering past their blockade. The "Mikeno" made it within 7NM of the coast of Gaza. The ship was then intercepted, seized, and boarded by naval commandos deployed from multiple Israeli warships with drones flying overhead.

Source:
https://t.me/gsfnews/217

 

The United States is considering imposing sanctions as soon as this week against the entire International Criminal Court, putting the court's day-to-day operations in jeopardy in retaliation for investigations of suspected Israeli war crimes.

Washington has already imposed targeted sanctions on several prosecutors and judges at the court, but naming the court itself in the sanctions list would be a major escalation.

Six sources with knowledge of the matter, all speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive diplomatic issue that has not been publicly announced, said a decision on such "entity sanctions" was expected soon.
A source said court officials had already held emergency internal meetings to discuss the impact of potential blanket sanctions. Two other sources said meetings had also been held of court member state diplomats.

One U.S. official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters, confirmed that entity-wide sanctions were being weighed but did not elaborate on the timing of the possible move.

A State Department spokesperson accused the court of asserting what it said was its "purported jurisdiction" over U.S. and Israeli personnel and said that Washington was going to take further steps although the spokesperson did not say exactly what.

"It (the ICC) has the opportunity to change course by making critical and appropriate structural changes. The U.S. will take additional steps to protect our brave service members and others as long as the ICC continues to present a threat to our national interests," the spokesperson said.

SALARIES PAID IN ADVANCE

Sanctions applied to the court as an entity could affect its basic day-to-day operations, from its ability to pay its staff, to its access to bank accounts and routine office software on its computers.

To mitigate the potential damage, ICC staff received salaries this month in advance for the rest of 2025, three sources said, though this is not the first time the court has paid wages in advance as a precaution in case of sanctions.

The court is also seeking alternative suppliers for banking services and software, three sources said.
The ICC, based in The Hague, has indicted Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and former Defence Minister Yoav Gallant, as well as figures from the Hamas militant group, for alleged crimes committed during the Gaza war.
Washington has previously targeted court officials with sanctions for their roles in those cases and in a separate investigation into suspected crimes in Afghanistan, which initially had looked at actions by U.S. troops.

ICC STATES PUSH BACK AT UN

Three diplomatic sources said some of the ICC's 125 member countries would try to push back against additional U.S. sanctions during a U.N. General Assembly in New York this week.

But all indications are that Washington will scale up its attack on the ICC, four diplomatic sources in The Hague and New York said.

"The road of individual sanctions has been exhausted. It is now more about when, rather than if, they will take the next step," a senior diplomat said.

U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio has called the court "a national security threat that has been an instrument for lawfare" against the United States and its ally Israel.

The court was founded in 2002 under a treaty giving it jurisdiction to prosecute genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes that were either committed by a citizen of a member state or had taken place on a member's territory.
Israel and the United States are not members. The court recognizes the state of Palestine as a member and has ruled that this gives it jurisdiction over actions on Palestinian territory. Israel and the United States reject this.

In February, the White House imposed sanctions on the court's lead prosecutor, Karim Khan, who had requested the warrants against Netanyahu and Gallant. Khan is on leave amid an ongoing investigation into sexual misconduct allegations which he denies.

 

Whenever I go through a slideshow of pictures in a community in tile view, such as !photography@piefed.social, the behaviour is a bit janky for me.

On Firefox in android, swiping right moves one picture at the time, but sliding left (and forwards in the slideshow) sends me through a bunch of pictures making it difficult to navigate.

On Firefox in desktop (Linux) and moving to the right using arrow keys, the picture display slowly drifts to the left: After going through 20 pictures, half the image on display is outside of my screen. With every new picture it moves further to the left.

In both cases the X button moves along.

 

A call for help from @eighthave@librem.one, who among other things is associated with F-droid:

An open call to #Android #developers! The #EuropeanCommission needs help evaluating #GooglePlay's #security claims. I'm going to do what I can. Anyone with knowledge of how app installation, uninstallation, sandboxing, signing, etc. could really help here. If you want to contribute, please reach out!

I figured maybe someone around here could be capable of helping out. Note that his Mastodon instance, librem.one, does not support private messages.

 

The thing I hate the most about AI and it's ease of access; the slow, painful death of the hacker soul—brought not by war or scarcity, but by convenience. By buttons. By bots. [...]

There was once magic here. There was once madness.

Kids would stay up all night on IRC with bloodshot eyes, trying to render a cube in OpenGL without segfaulting their future. They cared. They would install Gentoo on a toaster just to see if it’d boot. They knew the smell of burnt voltage regulators and the exact line of assembly where Doom hit 10 FPS on their calculator. These were artists. They wrote code like jazz musicians—full of rage, precision, and divine chaos.

Now? We’re building a world where that curiosity gets lobotomized at the door. Some poor bastard—born to be great—is going to get told to "review this AI-generated patchset" for eight hours a day, until all that wonder calcifies into apathy. The terminal will become a spreadsheet. The debugger a coffin.

Unusually well-written piece on the threat AI poses to programming as an art form.

 

European Union watchdogs fined Apple and Meta hundreds of millions of euros Wednesday as they stepped up enforcement of the 27-nation bloc’s digital competition rules.

The European Commission imposed a 500 million euro ($571 million) fine on Apple for preventing app makers from pointing users to cheaper options outside its App Store.

The commission, which is the EU’s executive arm, also fined Meta Platforms 200 million euros because it forced Facebook and Instagram users to choose between seeing ads or paying to avoid them.

 

Swedish journalist Joakim Medin has been detained in Turkey after arriving in Istanbul on Thursday to report on the current protests.

Since Medin notified his editor in chief that he was being taken in for interrogation – around lunchtime on Thursday – nobody has heard from him.

Joakim Medin is a regular contributor to daily newspaper Dagens ETC and has reported from and about Turkey regularly for several years. We do not as yet know where or how he is, and we are imploring the Swedish government to take action to help us get Joakim home.

The chief editor of Dagens ETC wrote the following commentary on the decision to make this public, machine translated using FireFox:

This is what Dagens ETC's reporter Joakim Medin wrote yesterday when he landed in Istanbul to monitor recent developments:

"They are taking me in for interrogations now"

Now it's been more than 24 hours.

Silence.

I don't know where he is.

I don't know how he's doing.

Not if he's interrogated.

Not if he's going to be deported.

We at Dagens ETC have feverishly tried to get answers in different ways (the UD and consulate are connected).

But a whole day...

Now we choose to do this in public.

For Joakim to be released.

Because freedom of the press is under attack.

I demand that the Swedish government act directly and sharply.

I expect the support of just about every other media.

Joakim went to Turkey to give Dagens ETC's readers all the nuances.

Now he can't do that.

With the hope of very quick solution,

Andreas Gustavsson, Editor-in-chief Dagens ETC

 

I just saw this post (with video) from @DavidMadeThis@mastodon.social on Mastodon, and figured it might be worth sharing. Looks pretty neat.

Hello Mastodon! I'm a power engineer who is trying out solo game development and on the way to release Power Network Tycoon - a game where you build and manage your own electrical grid with real physics simulation.

If you've ever wondered how power systems actually work (or why they fail), this might be your jam. I built it to be technically accurate while still being fun. To say it's been a challenge is an understatement...

 

With two months left in office, the president for the first time authorized the Ukrainian military to use the system known as ATACMS to help defend its forces in the Kursk region of Russia.


President Biden has authorized the first use of U.S.-supplied long-range missiles by Ukraine for strikes inside Russia, U.S. officials said.

The weapons are likely to be initially employed against Russian and North Korean troops in defense of Ukrainian forces in the Kursk region of western Russia, the officials said.

Mr. Biden’s decision is a major change in U.S. policy. The choice has divided his advisers, and his shift comes two months before President-elect Donald J. Trump takes office, having vowed to limit further support for Ukraine.

Allowing the Ukrainians to use the long-range missiles, known as the Army Tactical Missile Systems, or ATACMS, came in response to Russia’s surprise decision to bring North Korean troops into the fight, officials said.

Mr. Biden began to ease restrictions on the use of U.S.-supplied weapons on Russian soil after Russia launched a cross-border assault in May in the direction of Kharkiv, Ukraine’s second-largest city.

To help the Ukrainians defend Kharkiv, Mr. Biden allowed them to use the High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, or HIMARS, which have a range of about 50 miles, against Russian forces directly across the border. But Mr. Biden did not allow the Ukrainians to use longer-range ATACMS, which have a range of about 190 miles, in defense of Kharkiv.

 

I remember when Trump first won, the American-centered part of the web I would occasionally stop by seemed completely infiltrated with MAGA trolls. You had this feeling people thought it was edgy and fun - the worst kind of cultural moment seemed to be happening.

This time around I'm not so much on mainstream social media. And when I do check them out, it seems hard to understand what the vibe is as most content is AI or from professional content creators.

The closest thing I see to Trump supporters these days seems to be the enablers who endlessly repeat how they won't vote for Harris for some dumb reason or another - they simply cannot vote for a black woman president because it's not progressive enough, and all that jazz. But I don't ever see Trump supporters.

Of course they exist still. I have just chose social media platforms strategically to avoid toxic people.

So I'm wondering if the same enthusiasm for Trump that seemed to be boiling online in 2016 is still there today, and if this election only feels different because I'm self-selected into saner platforms. Or if it is really different this time around.

I get that it's an incredibly difficult question to answer, but I would love perspectives from people who have kept up an active use of mainstream social media, or otherwise have some insights I lack.

 

Norway asks the International Court of Justice (ICJ) to clarify whether Israel is violating international law. On Monday, Israel adopted new laws that effectively ban the UN aid organization for Palestinian refugees.


Norway, the UN, the USA and several countries have reacted strongly to the fact that the majority in the Knesset passed two new laws on Monday evening which will ban the UN aid organization for Palestinian refugees, UNWRA.

One law prohibits UNWRA from operating in Israel and the Israeli-occupied territories from next year.

The second law stipulates that Israel labels the UN aid organization as a terrorist group and breaks diplomatic ties with the organization.

This means that the Israeli authorities are prohibited from having any contact whatsoever with the UN organisation.

Foreign Minister Espen Barth Eide (Ap) said in a press release yesterday that Norway strongly distanced itself from the decision.

Now the Norwegian government is going one step further.

Eide wants the UN's highest court to assess whether Israel is violating international law when they want to ban UNRWA's work.

- No one is above the law and no one is above international law. The occupying power Israel has a duty to facilitate support for the people living in Palestine under occupation. Therefore, we believe this decision is simply illegal, says Eide to NRK.

According to the government, a number of countries have expressed support for the initiative, in addition to the United Nations Organization for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA).

Doesn't think anyone can replace UNRWA now

Norway has long been critical of how Israel has operated in Gaza and the West Bank after the Hamas attack in October last year.

Following Israel's decision to ban the UN aid organisation, Norway fears that the consequences could be dramatic for hundreds of thousands of civilians.

The organization has provided aid to millions of displaced Palestinians for over 70 years. They have also continued to work, while the war has raged in Gaza.

Eide believes that the Israeli government is now making it difficult for the Palestinians to get vital help and basic services such as health care and school.

The Israeli authorities say they are working on other solutions that can replace UNRWA, but Barth Eide believes that is not good enough.

- All the important emergency aid organizations are clear that they need the UN's emergency aid organization for Palestinian refugees. They are the ones who have the experience, they are the ones who have the expertise and those who have the entire infrastructure both in Gaza and the West Bank, says Eide to NRK.

He does not believe that anyone can replace the UN organization in the current situation.

- I do not believe that there is an alternative plan for this that can be put in place in time. The need and the crisis are now, not in the future. So this must be reversed, says Eide.

- Undermines the work on a two-state solution

Eide also believes that Israel's decision could undermine the work for a viable Palestinian state and a two-state solution.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, on the other hand, is well satisfied with Monday's decision.

- UNRWA staff involved in terrorist activities against Israel must be held accountable, he wrote on X after the new laws were passed.

Israel has claimed that 450 UNRWA staff worked for militant groups in Gaza and that several participated in the terrorist attack on Israel on 7 October last year.

Several countries put payments to UNRWA on hold. Norway was not among them.

An independent commission of inquiry later determined that Israel lacked evidence. UNRWA also fired around 20 staff for having a role in the 7 October attack.


Via NRK, the Norwegian public broadcaster.

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