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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I thought it was great: unanimous bipartisan support for once, a bashing that made my voice feel heard (and Im not even American). And yet...I didnt know where to post this, half the places i posted this on reddit automod blocked it, the other half had no reaction...i was expecting live megathreads for this kind of thing...but there is just silence...do people not care about this, does this bore them or is there some intentional silencing going on by social media giants?

[–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

I can’t speak for anyone else. I’m just tired. Tired of an endless circus that never seems to result in meaningful progress, change, or a sense that the good guys are winning. I don’t mean to seem defeatist but I feel defeated.

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The problem was that their bipartisan support was for the increased mass surveillance of the internet. How do you enforce something like an age restriction unless you have ID databases with the government?

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

it's very worrying. we need to resist. no "age restriction" nonsense, openly defy the law

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

there are lots of ways to do this, but government-issued online ID is probably the way to go to figure out if you are talking to a human or a muppet (I'd prefer to have a private info "wallet" which is rendered and validated, but never stored anywhere but by me). I think of it as an internet driver's license. You can still post anonymously in places like reddit, lemmy and 4chan, but nobody has to take anything you say seriously.

[–] ysjet@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Or instead of increased spying and mass surveillance, they could actually enforce the laws we have now instead of admitting they fucked up and haven't even tried out the current setup.

Complaining that the current laws dont work and need to be replaced with authoritarian mass surveillance when they haven't even TRIED to actually enforce the current laws is a bad look.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I see your angle now, I don't think it would need to be more mass surveillance than it already is, but understand why enthusiasm for these hearings could be damped by that waryness.

[–] ysjet@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We don't need 'slightly more' or 'the same amount' of mass surveillance, we need drastically less.

More to the point, there's no actual guarantee that repealing section 230 will have it actually be replaced by anything, which would effectively kill free speech on the internet, if not actually kill the internet itself.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

if these platforms are not ~~reigned~~ (might as well spell it like that given their regning attitude) reined in, the internet will die anyway...just a few walled fiefdoms that will dominate all markets and public spheres in the world.

[–] ysjet@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

.... You're literally on lemmy right now. That's as anti-walled garden fiefdom as you can get.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

How good for us enlightned ones who escaped the matrix. I guess the internet won't die for us :/ problem solved.

[–] ASaltPepper@lemmy.one 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Honestly I thought it was a rerun of the first time they grilled Zuckerberg from the thumbnail. Didn't expect Discord and Snapchat to show up.

Excited to see what comes out of this though, although I wouldn't say I have high hopes of positive change happening.

[–] Dagamant@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Discord is horrible for exploitation. Since it’s lots of closed chats a lot of it goes unmonitored and unreported.

[–] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The Zuck does like grilled meats though.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

oh no, this is a patented ZuckerBurger