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Shell Is Immediately Closing All Of Its California Hydrogen Stations | The oil giant is one of the big players in hydrogen globally, but even it can't make its operations work here.::The oil giant is one of the big players in hydrogen globally, but even it can't make its operations work here. All seven of its California stations will close immediately.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world -5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm clearly talking about cities. Where most people live.

[–] VampyreOfNazareth@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Where most people think their food supply line is invincible.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Rural communites still use their space inefficiently. You dont need a mile between houses. Natural resource generation takes no personal freedoms into account, nor does it take human comfort. We have one pie to share until the sun explodes. Best figure out how to share it.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You ever think that maybe farm/grazing fields are the reason rural homes are spaced so far apart?

Regardless, cars definitely contribute to climate change, but they're a drop in the bucket compared to industrial pollution. It makes me wonder why there isn't the same level of hyper fixation on replacing those technologies with carbon neutral solutions as replacing personal vehicles. Let's just keep those enormous cargo ships burning bunker fuel 24/7. Hell, even large scale meat farms are quite dangerous, as methane is even worse than CO2. You'd think there'd be more of a focus on regulating and slowing down large scale meat production.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago

If you can't get people to drop cars, you aren't going to get them to drop meat for meat alternatives. Its just the piece of our culture that has been deemed easier to change since there are alrsady successful examples of it across the world. Meanwhile, what country has no meat industry and provides a first world standard of living? It may exist, I dont think so though.

Yes, I do think they are further apart due to farms and grazing. My family has a farm in Alabama that has been slowly shrinking because of costs. Does every house out there have its own farm? No! Some of the land plots for newer builds were sold off from my family's farm, meaning it now envelopes the newer property. Are they still spaced far enough apart that you can't even tell someone else lives on the property? Of course they are!

Either way, we'll have these conversations until you and I are rubbing elbows on the $5 per half mile ride share to the corpse starch manufactorum.

[–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, so all the houses people rarely visit are located close together and the farms they have to visit multiple times a day are even further away?

Deranged thinking by someone who has never considered that their food is grown in a field rather than some factory

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago

If you design it in an asinine way, sure. All of these houses do not have personal farms. Most of them are either carved from the farm property, or already live off of it. Like my family's farm in Alabama. They cut pieces of the land directly off of the road and sold it to the workers so they can live near the farm. They rode mountain bikes to work and used their cars to go into town or groceries. Everyone acting like there is no alternative in this thread, or we already do things the best way, is in denial.

[–] WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"You don't need a mile between houses."

Never lived next door to a pig farm, did you

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

I didn't realize every house in rural country had its own pig farm.