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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 57 points 9 months ago (5 children)

If this defaults to on, I’m turning it off.

[–] themusicman@lemmy.world 52 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Out of curiosity, why? If it's a knee-jerk reaction to change that's completely understandable, but I can't see anything to dislike about the feature itself

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 54 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I can already read the title of the page and see the favicon, so it actually doesn't show new information. If I accidentally move my mouse there it covers a big part of the page i'm looking at

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you have many tabs opened:

I can already read the cropped title of the page and see the multiple favicon

[–] clb92@feddit.dk 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

cropped title of the page

To be super pedantic (sorry), that depends on how they've customized their UI. You can define a larger minimum tab width, if you'd like. Almost everything in Firefox is customizable.

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That is nice and yeah, I'm talking about the default experience you can get with Firefox for macOS, if it is any different in any other OS I wouldn't know, now if you know about a good customizing guide I'd appreciate it...

[–] clb92@feddit.dk 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There's a bunch of different ways you can customize it.

  • Default right click -> customize toolbars fore simple rearranging of toolbars, density setting and stuff
  • Changes made in about:config (such as "browser.tabs.tabMinWidth")
  • And the most powerful but difficult, userChrome.css. The UI of Firefox is actually defined by CSS. More info: https://www.userchrome.org/

EDIT: Oh and there are of course addons and themes too

[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

When I shop online, I have many tabs from the same site open. The tab title is the store name + the item name, so the item name never fits. A bunch of identical ebay icons is way worse than this.

[–] infeeeee@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I understand it may be useful for some people, but I'm simply not one of them

[–] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago

But that’s not what you wrote. You claimed that it doesn’t show new information because you can see the favicon and title. It does show new information.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 32 points 9 months ago

Not OP but I’d do the same, for the simple reason that I find most overlays super distracting. It immediately triggers a need to see what’s underneath.

[–] Kajika@lemmy.ml 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

On top of the fact that those previews are annoying as hell as other comments pointed out, I want to add that this kind of feature also uses a fair amount of processing + memory.

I think that is a nice opt-in feature for those who wants it but I like my default light and simple.

[–] hai@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago

I think it’s more that there really isn’t a need for this. If I’m not sure what a tab is I can always click on it. Chromium got this a while back and (even with minimal exposure to Chromium) I didn’t like it, it weirdly felt annoying and unnecessary.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Tree style tabs makes this feature entirely useless.

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Because stock tab management is entirely useless...

With this feature you can manage your tabs at least a bit better.

[–] hightime@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

stop resisting!

[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 31 points 9 months ago (5 children)

This has been people's reactions to anything good that comes into Firefox for close to 20 years now

[–] otl@hachyderm.io 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Really? AV1 & webp support, Quantum engine, process-per-tab, reader mode, HTTP/2 & HTTP/3 support, cross-site tracking protection...?
Browsers have a lot of features. Some convenient, some come and go. That's ok.
Firefox is an ideological choice for some people so both cynicism and unconditional support is expected.

@AMDIsOurLord @linux

[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Actually a decent amount of people were pissed at Quantum, process per tab, discontinuation of XUL, and the new extension system. There is like a whole project to restore the ancient Firefox, and it's slow as fuck (it's called Palemoon)

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I am a longtime Firefox user. I absolutely love many innovative feature Firefox has implemented (such as container tabs). Firefox does so many things better than other browsers, such as allowing CTRL-clicking tabular data for copy-and-paste.

However, I’m usually annoyed by features they add that seem like they’re just doing it to be like the dominant browser.

The worst was when they reassigned CTRL+I from getting page info to match IE’s behavior of viewing favorites. Thankfully, they’ve gone back to the sane behavior.

[–] ThisIsNotHim@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 months ago

It's a good feature, and probably makes sense to default to on. But I know I'll find it more distracting than useful, so I'll turn it off.

Large tooltips on mouseover are usually distracting. Facicons, text, and additional windows do enough to remind me what my tabs are.

New features often aren't helpful to each and every user, but as long as I can turn off the ones that are actively unhelpful to me, I'm perfectly happy to see them.

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee -2 points 9 months ago

This is just a clear sign of struggling with change adaptation bruh.

Gladly Lemmy userbase is so tiny compared with FF userbase that it won't influence Mozilla decisions to not implement this at all...

And you'll probably be able to deactivate it as they say so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Takios@feddit.de 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If this defaults to off, I'm turning it on.

[–] clb92@feddit.dk 4 points 9 months ago

Some people in the comments here seem really hostile towards those who want to disable the feature, but I support your "right" to customize your Firefox exactly to your liking. I'm just happy that we can even do that.

Getting this feature is awesome, and being able to turn it off is also awesome.

[–] Halano@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

Mozilla look for most useless stuff to implement.