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Fairphone’s latest repairable device is for people who hate saying goodbye to an old smartphone more than they like buying a new one.

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[–] Mannimarco@lemmy.world 56 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Fuck them for removing the headphone jack, it makes no sense at all

[–] sudneo@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

They have literally an explanation for this on their website. You might disagree, but saying "it makes no sense"...makes no sense.

Also, they discontinued the earbuds and still no jack on FP5, so the idea that "they wanted to sell their own buds" doesn't seem to be likely.

[–] Mannimarco@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It makes no sense to me, their whole deal is sustainability, by removing the headphone jack it forces me to buy Bluetooth headphones that all have batteries in them and are presumably not up to Fairphone standards of sustainability.

And saying we're just following market trends sounds like a shitty explanation to me. I have the 3, I'll use it for as long as it works but after that no Fairphone for me.

[–] sudneo@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Our starting point for design is longevity, which means making our devices more repairable, a very different approach to the electronics industry standard. To support maximum longevity and because of the IP rating, Fairphone 4 does not feature a headphone jack. In the end, it comes down to how we make a product that lasts for at least five years. We needed to eliminate as many vulnerabilities as possible, and the headphone jack is subject to dust and water ingress over time.

Again, you might disagree, you might know better, I don't know. But this is their motivation when it comes to longevity and hence sustainability. To me, it seems a reasonable idea: if the jack helps reducing the consumption of batteries in headphones but decreases the lifespan of the phones, it seems a bad tradeoff.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 2 points 7 months ago

Even after switching to a wireless headset (because the previous ones all broke at the wire), I would rather not use a device with no headphone jack. My headset has a very long battery life and can apparently have its battery changed fairly easily (big enough to be held together by screws). But neither of this can be said about earbuds, so my earbuds are staying wired.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 12 points 7 months ago

I'm surprised they discontinued their buds. Thank you for pointing that out.

They're still selling a 250 Euro Bluetooth headset with the phone as a option

https://shop.fairphone.com/fairbuds-xl

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 18 points 7 months ago

It makes perfect sense. They wanted to sell their own branded ear buds.

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

i carry an emergemcy audio adpater ony keychain now, thanks fairphone.

also, two of the 4 audio adapters i have are starting to break down, forcing me to buy new ones. real sustainable you guys

and yes, the one fairphone sells is one of the broken ones.

[–] romp_2_door@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

punish them by not buying their phone

I see so many be "angry" at them and yet they still buy the phone

[–] Mannimarco@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I'm not buying it, I have a Fairphone 3 and I'll use it for as long as it works

[–] BoBTFish@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I have the 4 and haven't missed it once 🤷

[–] Mannimarco@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

That seems to be most people, but for me it's a deal breaker.

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago