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Cause I am the captain now.
No, but to me it's less about like, historical precedent, and just more whether or not what we're doing makes any sense. I dunno, I think diogenes was cool, but then also I might cite like, you know, how the greeks would let people shit in the street and piss everywhere and just had a shit ton of graffiti and people having sex in public and stuff, if I wanted to cite a counterargument, or if I wanted an example of how kind of, subject to change, societal standards for these kinds of things are. Formerly rural, rapidly urbanizing modern indian cities, might be another example.
I would like my standards of what is and isn't publicly acceptable in the public square to be based on more than just like, the vibes of what we're all kinda feeling at the time, though, is the larger deal.
At the very least I'd like to try and change public sentiment to something that makes more sense, you know, I'd like to attempt that. Especially if there's some measurable improvement in quality of life for everyone, like homeless people no longer getting arrested for exercising their basic excretory functions in a society which has privatized a good amount of it's public waste management infrastructure. Certainly I would be more empathetic to the counterargument, if we had more regular, more regulated, public bathroom infrastructure. The first step towards such a process is convincing people, getting everyone to change their minds, which is pretty hard to do if everyone just makes appeals to what everyone else already believes.