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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (21 children)

Yeah, it depends on the context. Is the thread saying "we need to build out far more cycling infrastructure"? If so, no argument.

Or is the thread one of the naiive ones trying to argue about how we can completely eliminate cars? Then people start bringing up the edge cases that still require cars.

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

You'd typically hear this in the context of Dutch-style city planning, where direct routes through cities are only available to cycles and buses, and only indirect routes are available to cars.

So cars and other vehicles such as ambulances, furniture-removal vans etc. can still drive to every house from the ring-road, but it is no longer convenient to get from one place to another within the same city by car (which is obviously the design, as it promotes cycling and bus use)

People who drive within the city and would be inconvenienced then suddenly discover a newfound interest in the rights of, for example, disabled people, as they search for counter-arguments.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They don't let ambulances use the bus routes?

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago

Emergency vehicles generally have unrestricted access as far as I know, which also makes car-restricted infrastructure far superior to regular car infrastructure, on account of not being congested by cars.

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