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White House: Future Software Should Be Memory Safe (www.whitehouse.gov)

submitted 9 months ago by crimsonpoodle@pawb.social to c/programming@programming.dev

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On the one side I really like c and c++ because they’re fun and have great performance; they don’t feel like your fighting the language and let me feel sort of creative in the way I do things(compared with something like Rust or Swift).

On the other hand, when weighing one’s feelings against the common good, I guess it’s not really a contest. Plus I suspect a lot of my annoyance with languages like rust stems from not being as familiar with the paradigm. What do you all think?

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[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Please show me a single "good" programmer who is working with C/C++ and hasn't had a single memory bugs in a decade.

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Check out Eskil Steenberg. He's mostly a game dev, but he has some really good talks.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

And you know with 100% certainty he hasn't had a single memory bug in his last decade of developing?

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He has written his own libraries and programs to ensure these things don't happen.

What you people need to understand is that these problems have been solved before Rust. They just weren't baked into the language. And so people made mistakes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvkn9Xz-xks

I'm not saying Rust is not always the better choice. Of course not. I'm just oh-so-weary of this rewrite-the-world zealotry a lot of people have about it.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

you people

You mean grown-ups?

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, children.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

People who are about memory safety are children? Bruh.

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

That is very much not what I said, bruh.