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Don't be afraid of yourself (lemmy.world)

submitted 11 months ago by rockSlayer@lemmy.world to c/leftism@lemmy.world

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[–] masquenox@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

text me when you feel like actually discussing the topic

Oh, boo... the "enlightened centrist understander" is pretending to actually understand the topic at hand.

Cute.

the rich to disappear as a class

How, centrist? By "improving" the parasitic systems of exploitation that created them in the first place? What's next? We fix climate change with a nuclear winter, perhaps?

If a grown man doesn’t have a job he’s basically an outsider.

Oh, wait, is this your grand plan to "improve" capitalism and (somehow) make the rich disappear? By swallowing the brain-rotting ideology they cooked up to camouflage their parasitism hook, line and sinker?

Great plan! They'll never see that one coming!

but to have a job is to be a functional human.

Sooo... just for the record - your fallacious "human nature" bullshittery does include being forced to earn paychecks?

Hmmm, yes, I see your point. Much natural.

you can continue to ignore what i say,

Gee, thanks. Much appreciated. That comes in real handy when talking (or, at least, attempting to do so) to "enlightened centrist understanders" such as yourself.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You're not going to get anywhere when you talk to people like this. You keep dismissing the human nature argument without citing any evidence. Some of what they say makes sense. Like how someone without a job or some other kind of work like being a volunteer is an outsider who doesn't contribute to society and dosen't recieve much support from society.

The person you are arguing with is missing something though - and that's that capitalism is problematic because of human nature too. If humans weren't so greedy capitalism would be less problematic. Rather than human nature being something that only causes problems for socialism it's something that causes major issues with capitalism as capitalism doesn't align well with human nature. Heck maybe the actual solution is to remove humans from making economic decisions at all and have computers make them instead; or perhaps even aliens.