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[–] electricprism@lemmy.ml 119 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Maybe Nintendo should sue the power company for providing electricity for those people who played Zelda ahead of time.

While they're at it they should sue VMWare too and maybe reboot the API lawsuits of Oracle vs Google.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Not that I agree with the morality of what Nintendo is doing but their claim is that the emulator can't be used for anything meaningful besides piracy, whereas electricity is a general service that has lots of varying uses.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 8 months ago

their claim is that the emulator can’t be used for anything meaningful besides piracy,

Which, mind you, the filed brief is explicit about calling ALL emulators as nothing more than piracy tools... Says the company whose own hardware (Switch) is running emulator software to play older games. There is no technical difference except the manner in which the ROMs were loaded. They shouldn't be able to have their cake and eat it too.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Until machines reach end of life and break, and nintendo won't offer any official way of playing the games that people own - because of course they won't. We already know they don't even allow savegame backups without a BS subscription fee.

Emulation and piracy are very important ways of keeping a historical record of digital works that otherwise would vanish. We have countless examples of abandonware being kept alive by piracy.

Also I'm considering jailbreaking my wii because the games I bought - including one just a couple of weeks ago - are becoming impossible to play because the discs just don't last. I've had to clean this second hand one off many times to keep playing it. It's piracy, sure, but without it the entire catalogue would just vanish. If nintendo had their way the only way to keep those games would be to pay them a subscription for the rest of time.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not that I agree with the morality of what Nintendo is doing but their claim is that the emulator can’t be used for anything meaningful besides piracy

Homebrew, game modding, etc...

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

+ actual ownership and control over the purchased and owned hardware when Nintendo could randomly take away any software access they choose. These privateers are pirates too, stealing our purchases. The only way to fight them is with the right to pirate our citizenship's right to ownership in this thinly veiled faux democracy vernier over our neo feudalistic reality. Piracy is the roots movement of revolution.

[–] Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

As long as someone is just running ROMs backed up from their own Switch cartridges and not distributing those ROMs, Yuzu can be used entirely legally.

[–] Jako301@feddit.de 2 points 8 months ago

Yuzu decrypts the games with your prod.keys which already means circumventing anti piracy measures. Pretty much all countries that care about piracy (EU and US) have anti-circumvention laws that make this action illegal, even if its for your own use of your own games. No matter how stupid it may sound, there is no possible way to ever use Yuzu in a legal way in most of the first world.

[–] flora_explora@beehaw.org 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Isn't this comparable to utilities you buy for smoking weed (talking about countries where it is still illegal) like a bong or a special grinder? They are only really used for doing something illegal but it is still legal to buy them.

[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

I'm sure you're right, but IANAL. The only stuff that could be banned under this principle are precursors. Emulators aren't a means to piracy, they are a tool that could be used with pirated material.

[–] The_wild_card@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

No way einstein its almost like they were making a joke

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

I'm gonna just preface this by saying Nintendo suck and I don't agree with what they are doing.

But it's worth understanding what is happening here, nintendo isn't just throwing random legalize against the wall to find something that sticks. They are specifically going after yuzu via a fairly well tested part of the DMCA.

The DMCA allows them this, and if you don't feel like nintendo or anyone else should get to dictate what device you play the games you own on, you should be looking into whatever you can do to pressure your representatives to add to the many exceptions of that dmca clause for this purpose.

[–] unreachable@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago