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    [–] art@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I know instantly how to get the packages I need in Linux but I had to do some research to enable the webcam in Windows 10.

    The idea that one OS is easier than the other is misattributed familiarity.

    [–] KISSmyOS@feddit.de 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I discovered yesterday that Windows has a command line package manager in Powershell that can install, uninstall and update basically every software you might ever want to install on a Windows PC.
    winget search ""
    winget list
    winget upgrade

    [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 19 points 8 months ago (3 children)
    [–] baggins@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    They pulled a corporate and rewrote an opensource project to embed it into windows

    CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

    Do you really need to license your comments?

    (C) 2024 Baggins@lemmy.ca - All Rights Reserved

    (Plz don't sue me for making a derivative work based your comment and violating the license kthxbai)

    [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I love it when people get pissed off about nothing that even affects them.

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    [–] baggins@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Yes sir I'm super pissed off how dare you do something goofy on the internet!

    [–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    I own my own instance. Your "license" is not accepted. Your instance sharing content with mine is an automatic agreement to my instance's terms.

    1.2 Grant of License: By uploading User Content, you grant Saik0-Lemmy a non-exclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use, copy, distribute, publicly display, and modify your User Content

    See how silly this is? Your license means nothing. It's just wasted screen space. And nobody is pissed. People are just trying to talk sense to you.

    [–] KISSmyOS@feddit.de 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    I had a feeling this tool and its syntax was much too simple and elegant for it to be created by Microsoft.

    [–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    I actually thought PS was gonna be better than cmd... turns out consistency is a lot better in cmd... can't make heads or tails in PS. I still use cmd to invoke stuff in PS, but only if there is no other way.

    [–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Well, it's under a permissive license, so there is little he can do legally, except maybe sue them for not mentioning the original project, which I'm sure they will add and that will be that eventually.

    [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    That's true. A little recognition would've been nice and I think that's all he was asking for. Microsoft had a whole team work on it when they could've just given him a job to maintain it.

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    [–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago

    It's their choice. I'm sure they also had this in the works as well, but it eventually didn't work out (why pay another dev when we can have the ones already working for us do this as a side project... they basically just have to clone the repo and change a few things, that's it).

    As I said, he can sue for not mentioning the original project, but not much more... maybe he'll think a bit more about what license to choose when publishing big projects like this publically.

    [–] puppy@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

    They copied the open source project AppGet and screwed the developer. It's an interesting read.

    [–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    The idea that one OS is easier than the other is misattributed familiarity.

    Exactly. OP's meme makes no sense to me. My experience has been that using Linux is a never ending series of file not found and access denied errors.

    [–] 0x4E4F@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    And you never dug any further to see WHY you're being denied access or WHY that file is not found.

    Simple example, some distros will block regular user access to /root. That doesn't mean that you can't access those files, it just means that YOUR user can't see them WHILE you're logged in with that user... which is why bash file/dir completion will not work if you cd to /root/path/to/dir. Log in as root in the terminal and it works just fine. Some even might out right not see the files if you're logged in as a user, instead of root, regardless if that user in the sudoers file or not (you type in the exact path to a dir/file in the terminal and it won't open/cd to it). In those cases, even sudo won't work for some things, you just HAVE TO work with root.

    To be honest, this is very rare and has happened to me like once or twice (on some distros). In most situations/distros, sudo will work just fine.

    [–] lemmyingly@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    How do you know if you don't already know the package name?

    I have to always Google for the package name, which similarly is what I do to find a Windows installer but instead of the name it's download link.

    [–] rImITywR@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)
    apt search KEYWORD
    

    Or

    dnf search KEYWORD
    

    Or

    pacman -Ss KEYWORD
    [–] lemmyingly@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago
    [–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    To enable the webcam on windows you just...open teams and start a call or use one of the apps that use the camera...

    [–] art@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

    Unless the vendor decided to lock it down until you manually unlock it with the administrator account. Then even Teams can't see it.

    [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    It is almost like those Linux users are not really as technologically capable as they claim to be.

    Or they are just lying and haven't used Windows in over a decade.

    [–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Even on Linux, to use the webcam you just plug it and open gnome cheese or Google meets...

    [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago

    Ok great so the webcam works easy without researching on both OSes.

    Unlike what arthurpizza claims.