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[–] 7Sea_Sailor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Just use yt-dlp instead of relying on websites that shove ads in your face and may do what ever they want to the files you're downloading?

[–] bblfrnz@beehaw.org 32 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The worst ever suggestion and unfortunately the most upvoted. Do not ever download music from youtube, free-mp3-download was a front-end for deezer with flacs and 320 kbps mp3 and music on youtube is only about 160 kbps, that's kinda okay for streaming but absolutely ridiculous if you want to download and keep it.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 12 points 7 months ago

You can use yt-dlp to download from other website, not only on YouTube.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

You can tell the difference between 320kbps and 160kbps in a blind test?

If you can tell anything above 160 you're in a select minority (and using great equipment). Most people will never have any use for 320.

[–] sus@programming.dev 6 points 7 months ago

Youtube actually uses 128kbps opus, which should be significantly better than 160kbps mp3

but the real problem is that you can't know what quality the uploader used, it all gets recompressed by youtube.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand where you guys get these conspiracy theories about the human ear from, you sound like the people who claimed the human eye couldn't see a difference above 60 FPS. It's just obviously wrong. Stop reading studies and telling yourself you can't hear a difference. Use your ears.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 points 7 months ago

We do. 😁 It's very easy to do a blind test and figure out for yourself at what bitrate you stop hearing the differences.

Here you go: https://abx.digitalfeed.net/

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 22 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Why do people still download music from YouTube in 2024? The quality is awful and it's not even the easiest method of music piracy.

[–] Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

it's not even the easiest method of music piracy.

What’s easier than pressing 2 buttons in my YouTube app?

The quality is awful

It’s perfectly acceptable for me

[–] Outtatime@sh.itjust.works -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You think YouTube audio is acceptable? Oof...

[–] Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago

Ignorance is bliss

[–] ellabella@beehaw.org 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Personally, some of the particular covers sang by Youtubers or certain compilations remind me of specific memories back when I was younger.

Also there's a lot of songs that are not available anywhere else

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We could say the same thing for SoundCloud or any other music hosting service. It's not a reason to do everything on that one platform, especially when better alternatives exist.

[–] ellabella@beehaw.org 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nope. Not really. I speak two local languages for example and none of them are in Soundcloud, it was never popular in my region.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about the concept of using a service because it has content you cannot find elsewhere. That is absolutely why many people still download music from SoundCloud. Whether you do or not is completely irrelevant.

[–] ellabella@beehaw.org 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You: WHY DO PEOPLE...

Me: (Answering your question) PERSONALLY....

You: I'm not talking about YOU, your experience is irrelevant

What a goddamn fucking clown 🤣 I swear you need to grow some braincells next time you encounter an opinion that's contrary to yours.

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I download it from youtube because that's where I found it, and I'm not entirely sure what's easier than just copying/pasting the link of the page I'm already on. I'm very confident other methods have better quality, but easier is a big statement.

[–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago

Plus, it’s more likely you’ll find music you want on YouTube than Spotify or wherever since the author just needs to upload a video

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Does it just add a download button on the YouTube video? Because copy/paste is a pretty hard process to beat for simplicity.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Soulseek uses P2P filesharing. You open whatever software client you're using, search for whatever you want (with any additional parameters you want) and download. If you ever used one of the various Deezer downloaders it is a very similar experience. It is certainly a lot easier than repeatedly copy/pasting YouTube URLs for every song, or needing to play every single song so you can access some little download extension button you've added.

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago

I mean, it means I have to search it elsewhere, but I can see the benefit if I already know a list of things I want. I actually do have to play each song I download because I find the music on youtube in the first place. I don't know I want the song until I've heard it.

[–] Makeshift@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

Some music I like are fan covers/remixes that may only be on YouTube.

[–] silent_squirrel@feddit.de 18 points 7 months ago

It was possible to download lossless FLAC files (they got them straight from Deezer) though, so higher quality than anything downloaded from Youtube etc.

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago

YouTube is absolutely unacceptable quality. The difference is clearly audible even on $5 earbuds. I feel sorry for your ears if you don't hear the difference, but the vast majority of those who care enough to download music will be able to tell the difference.

I personally pay for Deezer HiFi and save the FLACs locally. Friends mostly do the same with Tidal, but both work well for this purpose.

If you want to find FLACs without paying for a service you can check out rutracker. It has torrents for discographies from a lot of famous artists. Alternatively, you could find a stolen account for one of the previously mentioned services, but that goes too far for my morals because you're hurting a normal person with a hacked account.

[–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Despite all the naysayers in the comments, this is the correct answer. No ad-riddled websites, no weird guis. just "yt-dlp < url of whatever you want to rip >" in bash.

Lots of people responding to this need to acquaint themselves with the raw power of yt-dlp. It isn't just for YouTube. You can rip Deezer and other streaming audio services. You can rip pretty much any video site. It even takes RSS and M3U8 links and will rip live streams.

[–] authed@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

On Android I use Newpipe for downloading audio-only.

[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But I want 320mbps and I don't want the extra sounds that come with some music videos.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Well I've found you can avoid the extra sounds as long as its available on YouTube music specifically, as that is a music specific platform but you have to only select from the songs section and not the Videos section. You get less selections than you would've before but not really since those extra ones weren't even songs, but rather music videos.

Also Lyric videos basically never have any sounds in them.

(Doesn't address the quality issues since many YouTube videos are limited in audio quality, I've found downloaders that can do it but it's hit or miss).