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[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The UN conducted a preliminary investigation and found clear and convincing evidence of rape, gang rape, sexualized torture, and even sex with the corpses. Just think about that for moment and imagine what those poor female hostages are almost certainly going through right now. Disgusting. Hamas is the absolute scum of the earth.

From the UN report:

Based on the information it gathered, the mission team found clear and convincing information that sexual violence, including rape, sexualized torture, cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment has been committed against hostages and has reasonable grounds to believe that such violence may be ongoing against those still held in captivity. In line with a survivor/victim-centered approach, findings are conveyed in generic terms and details are not revealed.

In the context of the coordinated attack by Hamas and other armed groups against civilian and military targets throughout the Gaza periphery, the mission team found that there are reasonable grounds to believe that conflict-related sexual violence occurred in multiple locations during the 7 October attacks, including rape and gang-rape in at least three locations, namely: the Nova music festival site and its surroundings, Road 232, and Kibbutz Re’im. In most of these incidents, victims first subjected to rape were then killed, and at least two incidents relate to the rape of women’s corpses.

https://www.un.org/sexualviolenceinconflict/press-release/israel-west-bank-mission/

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The important part that makes this propaganda:

The visit was neither intended nor mandated to be investigative in nature, a mandate vested in other United Nations bodies, which have promptly signaled their willingness and availability to investigate all alleged violations committed in the context of the 7 October attacks and their aftermath.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's why I said preliminary investigation. They said that there was enough clear and convincing evidence to warrant a full investigation by a range of UN bodies. That doesn't make it propaganda, you troll. It means that they are certain that sexual violence occurred, just not the full extent of it.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

But it is exactly this UN investigation, chaired by Navi Pillay and already underway, that the Israeli government has repeatedly blocked. On January 15, for example, Israel instructed physicians who had treated October 7 survivors not to cooperate with UN investigators. Source

How could they know that sexual violence occurred, when they weren’t able to investigate? Did they take the word of Israeli officials?

Ironically, it is the absence of any ability or power to investigate that likely induced Israel to extend an invitation to Patten. This was despite Israel’s refusal to cooperate with the official UN investigation currently underway.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So, rather than believe the words of the UN report, the 5000 photographs and the 50 hours of video they reviewed, you are proposing a conspiracy theory that the Israeli government's reason for refusing to cooperate with certain people in certain ways means that the rapes never happened? Dude....

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You think vilifying Hamas as sexual deviants, which hasn’t been proven in an actual investigation, is actually gonna absolve Israel and the ongoing genocide that has killed 30,000 Palestinians? Dude…..

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, and I didnt say that. One bad deed doesn't absolve another. The main point of my comment is that there are still women being held hostage that are probably experiencing sexual torture right now and desperately need to be rescued immediately. Do you want to wait years for the final investigation before prioritizing the release of these poor women?

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Then a sustained and immediate ceasefire should be the goal so the hostages can be freed, aid delivered, and all war crimes investigated. This ceasefire resolution was conditional on the hostages being released. It’s bass ackwards. Call for a ceasefire first, then the hostages will be released.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Gotcha. "We'll stop raping your women once you agree to the ceasefire. Never mind that the ceasefire is only necessary because we raped and killed your citizens first." Good logic. What a humanitarian you are. What should we call that, "rape diplomacy"?

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago

If you want Hamas held accountable. Then a ceasefire is necessary. A full and complete investigation can only be conducted after a ceasefire. So, yeah, it’s good logic.