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[–] Nicbudd@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (28 children)
[–] xtremeownage@lemmyonline.com 14 points 1 year ago (27 children)

About a year ago.

The uh, irony.... is this:

[–] CleoTheWizard@beehaw.org 26 points 1 year ago (26 children)

Believe it or not, I think he has a point and isn't at all a hypocrite. He'd show you how to pirate and torrent stuff (and has before) while also telling you he doesn't recommend stealing. What he was saying is that the content isn't meant to be free. The ads pay for the content. So not watching ads means the producer doesn't get paid. Its a soft form of piracy but he wasn't telling you what to do about that. He just said "Be aware you're not giving people anything for their content". I don't know why thats controversial, he's not even suggesting its illegal or even immoral. I never understood the arguments here but I also dont visit twitter

[–] snaggen@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do not block ads. I however use Privacy Badger to block tracking cookies, which means that I don't see ads. I will see all ads that are not tracking me, which seems to be none. Is protecting my privacy also piracy?

[–] CleoTheWizard@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is, yes. It’s a separate conversation of if it should be illegal or immoral to keep your privacy this way. But as long as you are violating the intended method of revenue for the content you’re viewing, that’s piracy to me.

I think most people hear piracy and think it’s immoral or illegal, but there are very valid reasons to pirate content such as game and movie preservation.

[–] Boozilla@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Yup, illegal does not mean immoral or unethical. It just means some rich or powerful person doesn't like what you're doing. There's a lot of overlap, of course. Many illegal acts are also immoral or unethical. But it's not a 100% overlapping Venn diagram. Also YT is kind of evil, so it's piracy against an evil corporation as much as the content creator. The smarter content creators have sponsors and embedded ads and don't rely on YT for anything.

[–] snaggen@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The implicit contract is to show an ad for a service, but they are actually violating the contract by attaching other things to the ads. They then use the ads to steal information that they then sell without my consent. So, if anything we are discussing honor amongst thieves.

[–] CleoTheWizard@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

It’s not like you see the ads that have trackers, they get blocked. So it’s still part of the agreement sort of. And you’re also aware that it’s revenue for them. People assume it’s a moral argument, it’s not. You can pirate from absolutely evil people, but it’s still piracy. That’s why I don’t view it as worth arguing over for the most part. I WANT people to realize that it’s piracy but that they’re actually doing something ethical.

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