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Interesting. I thought it was fairly well established that Jesus existed in some capacity but the debate was about who he actually was and (from a religious standpoint) if he did any of the things the Bible claims he did. It's interesting to read that non-jewish people of the time seemed to have no knowledge of his existence.
At the same time though, I wonder if it's possible that most people just ignored him, which is why there's apparently very few accounts of him until after he supposedly died, resurrected and ascended to heaven. Kinda like a street preacher in Times Square, NYC. How many people actually acknowledge street preachers on social media, and how many of them actually know the preachers by name? Then think about how social media didn't exist yet, so the bar to be recorded in history by uninterested third parties (even just as a letter to a friend about that "annoying Jesus guy") is probably a lot higher.
Not saying he existed, just that it's interesting to think that he could have existed but the lack of evidence is just because no one gave a fuck.
Some version of Jesus absolutely existed, since is was a pretty common name. Street preachers were not uncommon either, so it's very possible that there was one named Jesus.
The real debate about whether Jesus existed is whether any of the biblical stories are at all accurate. There is No reason to think they are.
Also he was supposedly very prominent but apparently no historian or political writer back then recorded anything about him.
Weird, I read that jesus was not a common name at the time and that it would have been something like yusuf in reality if he was real
"Jesus" is a Latin translation of a Greek translation of the Hebrew name Yeshua so, yes, "Jesus" wasn't literally a common name in Israel. It was actually Yeshua (יְהוֹשֻׁעַ,) that was a common name.
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are two wildly different claims which cannot co-exist.
Except they were two different claims. "Some guy named Jesus existed", and "Some guy named Jesus was a street preacher".