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We need a Federated FOSS Discord alternative built to work with the activity pub protocol.
Has anybody made a matrix app that looks like a discord clone? That sounds easier since the federated rich text chat is already made, the current clients don't really appeal to the discord crowd.
Cinny is the closest to Discord in terms of UI, it even has a feature where you can show subspaces within a space as if they're categories of a Discord server.
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No we don't. We need small instances, each with their own specific topics and communities that DO NOT share your information far and wide, like the fediverse does. I don't think the fediverse model is the way forward.
But by not sharing anything, you'd loose users who don't want to sign up for each instance individually. I think it would be a good way to be able to sign up once on one instance and then being able to use all other instances available, but the chats etc of one instance being private to the instance itself.
True, and then there's the other side of the coin. Federation exposes you to trolls, nazis, and doxxing.
Well I guess if you wanted you could just run it defederated? And you could also build in that the instance/guild owner needs to accept joins, I guess?
Or… how about we just treat the fediverse like it is a…. public forum…. and use different tools for having more private conversations?
Isn't there already one? Thought that was what Revolt was
not federated
Is open source though, federation can always come later
That said I'm not sure why they didn't use matrix from the start
Federation isn't something that can be added later. This has to be part of the protocol from the start.
Anything "can" be added later... as for the effort required, that's a separate matter.
I also wonder why they didn't use Matrix from the start. Right now, with group chats, spaces, threads, and audio/video streaming, bridges, bots, etc. while allowing E2EE, Matrix already seems to be better than Discord.
I thought Lemmy started without federation?
It started as a Fediverse-based alternative to Reddit, so it was designed with federation in mind from the start.
So... Lemmy? Mastodon?
Although I think Matrix is better suited for chat, just need a client with voice/video support.