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God, I wish AMD and Intel could get their shit together.
Happily playing modern games and developing shaders on my AMD GPU. 5120x1440 120 Hz issue free
I wish people would get their shit together and realize they’ve fallen victim to marketing
It's not marketing, AMD sucks for ML stuff. I don't just play games. Everything is harder, with fewer features and less performant with AMD.
The situation is mostly reversed on Linux. Nvidia has fewer features, more bugs and stuff that plain won't work at all. Even onboard intel graphics is going to be less buggy than a pretty expensive Nvidia card.
I mention that because language model work is pretty niche and so is Linux ( maybe similar sized niches? ).
Yeah. Linux boys on AMD are eatin' good.
Really? I've only dabbled with locally run AI for a bit, but performance in something like ollama or stable diffusion has been really great on my 6900xt.
The problem isn’t, that it isn’t great, but that nvidia cards are just better at a given price point, partially thanks to cuda.
And for gaming and general use, my experience in the last few years has been, that nvidia still has the leg up, when it comes to drivers on windows. Never had a nvidia card make any problems. AMD, not so much.
Would still happily trade my GTX 1650 with a RX 6400 because I recently switched to Linux and it’s a whole different world there…
AMD successful at the mid tier?! I'm shocked!
NVIDIA prints money in the enterprise where business will literally lose money over the extra compute, and lesser so in high end gaming with details turned up. AMD simply can't complete, it's not marketing, it's a better product.
AMD has never gotten more than 50% of the market, even in the years where their entire product lineup offered better performance/features for less money. I'm talking about the "good old days" here, where software features weren't a big factor for consumers and ML was nonexistent. You have to be delusional to think that Nvidia doesn't hold a very clear mindshare and marketing advantage.
Oh you mean because of the shit buggy drivers they had? NVIDIA has nearly always had the most compelling product at most upper price points. When ATIs product line was briefly straight up faster for a brief period (years lololol👌) and folks choose Nvidia because ATI drivers were a god awful buggy mess.
But yeah everyone is just a little brainwashed leming 🙄.
They still have, I replaced my 3070 with a 7900 xtx and the 7900 is constantly freezing with ring GPU errors and drivers completely effing up the system. I have already replaced it twice, and I am using workarounds to not hit bugs, but they happen every few days...
Which brand gpu?
Powercolor, red devil.
Under 6.7 I was able to find some a combination that was usable for a few days.
With 6.8, timeouts would happen within 30 minutes.
I fiddles with sched_job module option and the system seems stable now.
Weird. Glad you found a stable solution but that sucks.
It hasn't crashed yet, but I won't be able to test it for a couple weeks (vacation time \o/).
For normal use, it looks like the crash is resolved or, at least, as stable as 6.7 was. Next test is to play Helldivers 2 with the Vulkan backend and see if it crashes or run.
Seriously. AI aside, if you're doing anything 3D-related you're basically shooting yourself in the foot by not going Team Green. The difference in render time/quality is exponentially better. I'd kill to see AMD or Intel pull a Ryzen in the GPU market.
Yeah, the quality of Nvidia pro drivers is a crapshoot though. We've had so many issues, especially with OpenGL, it just isn't funny anymore. Granted, AMD isn't really that much better, but at least the cards cost a fraction and I have more confidence in AMD fixing the problem, than I have in Nvidia.
Success of nvidia now is pretty much the same as the success of Intel back when cisc was losing to RISC(so they became partially risc, lol) and Intel got developers attention because of IBM PC and its clones. So is Nvidia that was chosen by Open AI. Intel competition was quite on par with blue giant(not only amd), but one big player has decided the winner and same with Nvidia since both AMD and Intel and Google have their ai accelerators that are not really worse and even better from time to time. And now after Blackwell Intel presents Gaudi 2, AMD prepares new CDNA generation, Chinese companies create more cost effective solutions, tenstorrent too starts catching up.
Nvidia's and Intel's wins in their respective fields were not really products of their innovations, but rather good cooperation