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Would a Federation warship like the Defiant out gun a Star Wars Star Destroyer? Who has a bigger armada? Who has the tactical advantage? Don't forget that The Federation includes the Klingons, who love warfare and have fast, agile, heavily armed ships, with cloaking devices, and the Vulcans with superior logic and tactical planning.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No shields in Star Wars, first of all. Much more powerful weaponry in Star Trek (it doesn't take a moon sized station 30 hours to charge a laser; the Enterprise could nuke a planet in like 30 seconds with a phaser bank). Mind control and telekinetic powers are effortless vs taking years of dedicated training. Etc.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Not true. The entire plot of Return of the Jedi is taking down the shields protecting the Death Star 2. Droidikas have shields. Capital ships are equipped with corridor shields, as displayed in Revenge of the Sith.

They might not be implemented in the same way, but the tech is there and while I don't have an example off the top of my head, I don't believe there there are not shielded empire vessels in the expanded universe.

And at that, in such an absurd hypothetical, the legion of empire engineers could quickly see the Federation shield advantage and quickly mimic it.

Your statement of enterprises ability to blow up a planet with its phasers is also 100 percent false. Just straight gobbledygook.

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The Empire shielded an entire planet in Rogue One.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago

If we are talking planetary warfare, I am now remembering the shield domes from Phantom Menace.

Don't forget about the energy shielding used to protect the Mustafar refineries in RotS.

I am not a super buff on either franchise, and I definitely know more Star Wars, but I don't remember any kind of terrestrial, infantry, or personal shielding in Star Trek, with the exception of the Borg, who continue to wreck the Federation because the only shields the Federation has are bubbles around their ships that fail pretty quickly with an energy weapon barrage.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Your statement of enterprises ability to blow up a planet with its phasers is also 100 percent false. Just straight gobbledygook.

There is literally an episode of TNG where they use that very thing as a threat to some colonists they need to move, and then go on to say that the incoming aliens that want the humans gone are even more powerful. Their ability to glass a planet with a single ship is mentioned *quite a bit.

As for the shields in Star Wars: They're only good if the ships are near enough to a ground based generator that is vulnerable to attack. In a straight up space battle not near a planet, the empire is kinda fucked. Plus the shield generators in Return of the Jedi at least don't seem to be shielded themselves... So lock photon torpedos and boom.