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‘Alarming’ Ocean Temperatures Suggest This Hurricane Season Will Be a Daunting One
(www.nytimes.com)
this post was submitted on 04 Apr 2024
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Please let this be the year that Florida finally sinks.
It's not going to magically sink; parts of the state have enough elevation to remain above sea level even if we melt everything.
What might happen is that coastal properties become uninsurable, which will make it all but impossible to obtain loans or build new buildings.
Insurance companies are legally required to pretend climate change doesn't exist for purposes of calculations. I'm not even joking, that was DeSantis's "solution".
Doesn't that just mean many insurance companies won't insure anything in the state and those that stay are going to be the most expensive options?
Probably. Never said the guy was particularly smart.
It’s just dumb. Not only is it not fact-based policy, but it’s not like insurance companies don’t have power. I would imagine that fucking around with gigantic institutions like these is basically like signing a death sentence for a conservative political campaign.
insurance companies are not renewing or only giving highest level premium insurance. DeSantis told the insurance companies to disregard all the expert warnings as basically liberal bullshit.
Is that the right link? It doesn’t mention climate change at all
It was the wrong link and I can't find the one that included DeSantis saying that the president of an insurance company that left the state was being influenced by climate scientists.
Here's one talking about how climate change has affected insurance in Florida, Louisiana, and California and how insurance is either running away from the exposure risk or pricing it in and causing rates to to skyrocket unless subsidized by the government
I thought Florida was already uninsurable.
There's a high-cost state-run insurer of last resort (Citizens Property Insurance Corporation) which is still in operation. The right set of storms could break that.
If it’s anything like my state they are carrying way too many people and it’s just a ticking time bomb.
It won't even need a big set of storns. It will just need the constant slightly elevated and worsening conditions we've been seeing, with more frequent major events. A failure of attrition , literally and figuratively.
Then they might just be counting on FEMA and other federal aid to bail them out. They might even try holding themselves hostage at some point.
Let it take Bezos and Hannity, too! Please!
Can we throw Elon in too?
He moved to Texas. I live in Texas. Can it at least wait until he’s out of state, that way I can continue my existence?
Why not take care of Texas and Musk at the same time? Seems like more trouble to do them separately.
Well, just be sure to let all the non-GQP idiots know first so we can leave.
How can we not?
Mar a Lago is in FL, too. Wouldn't it just be the icing on the cake if Trump lost his precious golf club? Perhaps with him inside?
When people suggest my state gets wiped off the map, I'm upvoting it. I'd imagine a lot of the people upvoting that are also Floridians.
Wow, you sure got butthurt. Too bad I didn't say anything about the people in Florida, they're more than welcome to live somewhere more sensible, say... on actual land, rather than a sandbar and a bit of hole-y limestone. But feel free to go down with the sandy ship you call home if you want. You can find me up the hill a little ways, laughing.
idk what the deleted comment said but yeah praying on “this being the year florida sinks” is not it, come on.
do we actually think the rich landowners are going to feel any regret when they lose their property? hell naw dude they are gonna move and probably get sick insurance payouts as well. and the places they move to? they’re gonna slide in with higher purchasing power and outbid local low income families from their own homes.
when in the history of capital has natural calamity hurt the wealthy more than the working class poor? with peace and love, get absolutely so fkn real lmao. human beings have a right to homes, and not to be uprooted from those homes because of the whims of an oppressive and immoral upper class.
this “florida bad” dialogue is sickening to me. places like florida don’t come about without consistent and potent oppression. playing into this meme that entire populations are better off participating in forced migration is scarily victim blame-y and disconnected as hell from peoples’ lived reality.
What do you think happens to people during large scale natural disasters? You don’t get to act indignant and ignorant at the same time.
They’re right. You’re being an asshole.
What do I think happens to people? Considering it's the internet, and my comment was tangential enough to the topic that I didn't think I'd need to write an essay because someone got their feefees hurt after baking in the sun too long.
I'll make sure to donate to a life-vest or pool-floaty fund or something to make up for it.
You’re trying too hard now.
horrific to see the fear of losing literally everything derided as “fee fees getting hurt.”
anyone who actually thinks florida sinking memes are funny is clearly coming from a place of notable privilege or affluence. i’d expect this kind of behavior from r/conservative, but i guess some of the neoliberal community are showing their true colors right here on c/climate.
“fuck the poor lmao i only care about the aesthetics of climate activism; the actual harm of climate change on the ground is irrelevant to me.”
Neoliberalism is a conservative ideology so it would be on /r/conservative. It’s the ideology of the 90’s and 2000’s GOP up through Trump. Despite “liberal” in the name it’s not actually “liberal” as we know it.
But yes otherwise totally agree with you.
Besides, Florida can't go any lower.