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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

A gasoline fire can be put out with about a thousand gallons of water. A lithium battery in an electric car can take 3,000-5,000 gallons of water to put out. There have been cases of wrecked Teslas reigniting at scrap yards weeks after they were destroyed.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

they gotta start taking the batteries out of them before scrapping them, probably with mandatory recycling. also hot take all cars should have a public transit and protected bike lane tax applied to them

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 months ago

I think it already is supposed to be mandatory before crushing them.

Most wrecked cars generally get parted out before recycled/crushed and shredded. Taking the battery out is also a huge pita. That's what shouldn't be allowed. Batteries need to be much more easily replaceable than they are.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You’d think we’d have a better solution for extinguishing this by now. Solid state batteries can’t get here fast enough.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The same thing that makes lithium good for batteries also makes it good for burning for days at a time and reigniting randomly

[–] __dev@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

That's kinda true, in a sense that all batteries use a chemical reaction to generate electricity and a damaged battery can short and thus ignite arbitrarily. But there's lithium-based batteries like LiFePo₄ that burn significantly less intensely if at all; and there's lab-only chemistries that are non-flammable. So it's not really because of the lithium specifically that they burn so well.

[–] noxy@yiffit.net 7 points 7 months ago

If EV fires take 3-5x as much water to put out, but ICE vehicles catch fire 30x more often as EVs, is that really so bad?