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[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 107 points 2 years ago (19 children)

The block "feature" is a required tool for being listed on the Google and Apple stores, among others.

Removing it will get Twitter delisted from them as well.

[–] Thee0023@sh.itjust.works 44 points 2 years ago (18 children)

That'd be nice if it actually applied, but Apple has already made exceptions for X among other large companies to allow them to play by different rules in the store. So I'm not holding my breath for any sort of punishment.

Examples:

  • X got a one letter App Store name that was previously against the rules (other devs need their app name to be at least 2 characters) (more info)
  • YouTube had been blocking iOS PiP background playback (not sure if they still do) and put that feature behind the YouTube Premium subscription. Background playback and PiP is part of iOS's system capabilities and the rule specifically says it's not allowed. See Apple's guidelines section 3.2.2 (ii) here. With this, one could make the argument that PiP would only support system supported video decoding, and YouTube uses DASH for higher resolution videos, but YouTube does offer video and audio streams that are natively supported by Apple as well so I don't hold much support for this argument.
[–] jamiehs@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (17 children)

“Background playback” is behind the premium paywall; NOBODY gets YouTube PIP support on iOS; such a shame.

I repeat, even if you pay for premium you simply can’t do PIP using the official app. You can however use a browser and use PIP that way I think (there used to be some weird workaround but I’m not sure if it still exists).

Edit: I was (happily) wrong! I see now, they added it halfway though 2022 and I needed to go into settings and explicitly enable it. I’m a happy camper now! Thanks for the correction

[–] canuckkat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You don't even get PiP on Android without premium.

[–] Contend6248@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

There's a Firefox addon and 50 different apps doing that.

[–] canuckkat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thought people were talking about the native app not watching via the browser.

But, yes, Firefox Mobile Android master race. Can confirm it's so superior!

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I still find the Firefox performance on Android to be a bit lackluster. Still use it for ideological reasons. They are making strides though.

[–] Imotali@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes you do. S20 Ultra, No Premium, I can PiP.

[–] TANSTAAFL@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Not on googles phones, pixels have a single good feature, call screening, if that wasn't so necessary for my mental health these days i'd go back to samsung in a heartbeat.

You can still play youtube through a browser like firefox and get working pip without paying for premium but if you want to use the official app its locked behind a paywall.

[–] canuckkat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Pixels also have the live captioning built into its sound ecosystem. Not sure if it got translated to other brand images though.

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