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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 65 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Friend making $450k as a software engineer

I’m a software developer. If I just start calling myself an engineer, can I have 450k?

[–] ScruffyDucky@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just change your email signature and you're good to go :)

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well in that case, I’ll change it to CEO. Wish me luck!!

[–] ScruffyDucky@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Good luck, here is a pic to go with the signature :)

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[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are you a senior or staff software engineer for a multinational tech company in the Bay Area or NYC?

$450k is typical in that case.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Seniors are usually pulling around $200k in NYC, plus stock worth around $100k. Still crazy high, but not nearly $450k unless they've been there for a very long time, and the high CoL makes it worth about half of that.

Staff engineers, as in those who write 4 lines of code a year, are closer to $450k

[–] evatronic@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Staff engineers get paid the big bucks to spend all day in meetings so the rest of us don't have to.

Worth it.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

Hello, I'd like to apply to be staff engineer, I will even accept a lower salary if I can call the client/user a dumbass for contradicting themselves during the meeting

[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

New grads at Google make over $200k in NYC...

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yeah, that's net including ~$100k of stock distributed over 4 years. The base starting is around $130k for a low level SWE. As the years to by, the base salary goes up to a little over $200k for seniors, but the stock refreshes aren't usually as large as the initial.

Of course, it also depends on how the company is doing as a whole. Lately Googs has been struggling and laying off people.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Nope, has more to do with which company you work at

[–] wwaxen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Check the law where you live. Engineer is in many places a restricted profession like lawyer or doctor.

[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's not restricted in the US.

If the person is calling themselves a "software developer" instead of a "software engineer" then they almost certainly live some place where "engineer" is a restricted term.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, software developer isn't a fallback term for software engineer, they have slightly different implications. They're all very loosely defined so they're almost interchangeable

[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Really? Do you know of a company that has both developers and engineers where the distinction is not location?

Where I work, we have both, but it's purely a location thing. In the American offices we're called "engineers", yet my coworkers in Canada are called "developers" despite doing the exact same work. We don't have "developers" in the US.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 3 points 2 years ago

It's usually one or the other. It just doesn't matter which one

At my first job I was on a contract as a software engineer I with the job title junior developer, because that's just how the titles mapped

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

It’s somewhat restricted. You can’t hold yourself out as a civil engineer without passing the exam, for example. For made up jobs like software “engineer” there are no rules — it’s like the FDA with regard to actual food vs. supplements.

[–] DinosaurSr@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago

I tried this but it didn't work 😭