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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 62 points 7 months ago (15 children)

“When she tried to get away, he shot her once, then there was more exchange between them," Shultz said. "Mr. Brock was at some point injured to his head, and he shot Ms. Hall a second time. There was more conversation, and then he shot her a third time. Only after he shot her a third time did he then make contact with authorities to report the incident."

Mr. Brock should not own a firearm.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (12 children)

The pro-gun crowd will never agree with you.

They were asked how gun laws could be improved after a teenager, who people called "school shooter" because of his history of rape threats and animal abuse, bought 2 semi-automatic rifles from a gun company that targets edgelords and used them to mutilate a room of children beyond recognition. Their response was "make them even more permissive".

If they they oppose denying firearms to someone with that many red flags, they're definitely not going support denying firearms to someone for being old, unable to control their emotions and probably racist.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The pro-gun crowd will never agree with you.

Some people should not own firearms. Period.

Well, that was the easiest way to prove that trying to generalize any group of people the way you did is just silly.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Thanks for sharing your special snowflake status with us but generalizing groups of people is the only way to discuss them and I'm not going to let pro-gun bullshit slide just because I haven't kissed every gun owner on the mouth.

The lobby groups, politicians and online communities that represent you do not agree that "some people should not own firearms", with some of them even advocating guns for felons. It's the fairest possible generalization I can make.

If you don't want to be associated with that, take it up with them. Hell, send me the link as proof that you actually mean it, instead of it being hollow, worthless virtue signalling designed to derail arguments.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca -5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Wow. You really lean all-in to your handle, don't you?

After all these months, I really think your account is designed to create division and not actually promote a decent cause. Honestly. You are hurting your cause more than helping it.

Look at your last comment as an example. You default to name calling and broad stereotypes instead of making valid points that might convince me of something. TBH, it's more in the style of a Russian troll rather than someone who is sane and simply pissed off.

Even most hardcore, redneck gun owners I know are not as vile as you can be and some of those fuckers are seriously off their rockers. I would feel safer around them rather than you, actually. That's not to be taken as an insult.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

After all these months, I really think your account is designed to create division and not actually promote a decent cause. Honestly. You are hurting your cause more than helping it

We've seen how much weight the pro-gun community gives your opinions so who cares if you're convinced? Besides, gun owners have been politely pandered to for 20 years and it's done nothing but dig us a deeper hole.

Look at your last comment as an example. You default to name calling and broad stereotypes instead of making valid points that might convince me of something. TBH, it's more in the style of a Russian troll rather than someone who is sane and simply pissed off.

I am deeply offended at how you have generalized Russian trolls. You should be ashamed of yourself for talking about them as a group without knowing the argument style of each and every one of them first. Until you've accomplished that impossible task, I'm just going to dismiss everything you say using this deeply manipulative out.

Even most hardcore, redneck gun owners I know are not as vile as you can be and some of those fuckers are seriously off their rockers. I would feel safer around them rather than you, actually. That's not to be taken as an insult.

Love it. You're openly admitting there's gun owners in your life who are "seriously off their rocker" rednecks but you're going to support them anyway because some guy on the internet hurt your feelings (and that's more important than other people's lives)

We both know you were always going to support the gun owners no matter what I said, you're just doing the "it's your fault I'm a bad person so you should change" tactic beloved by domestic abusers the world over.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You are making some wild assumptions, but whatever.

Russian trolls follow a very distinct pattern and it's very similar to yours, actually. Insult, insinuate and make broad general assumptions about what other people think. It's not generalizing or stereotyping as much as it is pattern matching.

You are basically babbling and twisting comments, so conversation is pointless. Honestly, I thought I had blocked you months ago. K bai.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

"It's not generalizing when I do it"

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