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[–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I actually consider the tracking of my browsing/watching history to be integral to the search experience.

I don't have a problem with people who are okay with it getting it. I'm not saying that Google shouldn't be allowed to do that, just that it's not what I want.

It wasn’t worth the tradeoff for me, maybe it is for you though?

I use DDG now, as well as some other things like dropping cookies at browser exit. But they aren't really an alternative to, say, YouTube. And...I mean, I've got no problem with Google's services. I just would prefer to pay for them with money rather than with data.

[–] DarthYoshiBoy@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago

I don’t have a problem with people who are okay with it getting it.

My apologies if I implied that you did, that was not my intent.

But they aren’t really an alternative to, say, YouTube. [...] I just would prefer to pay for them with money rather than with data.

Sorry, that was my point though, without the tracking, you're not getting YouTube, or most of Google's services as we know them. The Google secret sauce is that they know enough about their users to curate an experience per user. That's largely why competitors to Google services rarely take off, the competitors lack enough individual user knowledge to make an experience that is better than what Google can offer for most users.

The services more or less are what they are because of the breadth of what and how Google knows to shape the experience for an individual, and that's why Workspace accounts still track what they do. Google would be providing their paying customers with a lesser experience if they genericized everything you're interacting with in those content related services due to a lack of learned data and behaviors per user. Which is probably not what the average user wants if I had to guess?

Heck, even paid YouTube Premium still needs your tracking data or it's just going to show you whatever popular rage bait is trending day to day with the general public? Or maybe just an unfiltered firehose of all the hours of nonsense that is uploaded every minute to the platform? I guess you could treat it as a whitebox video hosting site, but where does the money come from if YouTube can't make guarantees to advertisers that their ads will be seen by people who might care about the ad, and how do the content creators make money if YouTube can't get advertisers on board, and who is making interesting content if they have to pay to host it themselves because advertisers aren't paying that cost for them? I think my point is that if you pull the tracking and user knowledge out of the Jenga tower, the whole thing just crashes down.