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The antisemitism is coming from inside the house
It always has... antisemitism is a western invention.
Considering Judaism is a western religion, no duh?
Right, Judaism is so "western" that it existed long before the west existed. Much "western."
I'd say I'm sorry that obvious historical fact disturbs so many liberals - but I won't. Because I'm not.
I'm sorry your hot take is what here exactly? Antisemitism didn't exist before the cultural concept of 'the west'? Because that's just patently false
You do understand that we can track where antisemitism comes from, right? Even all the way past the Spanish Reconquista and the subsequent instututionalization of the very first race laws?
White supremacism and antisemitism is as fundamental to "western civilization" as... well - I guess there really isn't anything else to "western civilization," is there? And that includes the liberalism that's overflowing here on lemmy.world.
I never said the west didnt/doesn't practice antisemitism, but to call a "Western invention" is patently false. And just sprinkling "liberalism" throughout your comments doesn't make you sound like an enlightened leftist, it makes you sound uneducated. You can't even identify it and you're just calling people liberals left and right lmao. How can Judaism simultaneously both predate the West and antisemitism be invented by the west? Antisemitism has existed since the beginning, literally in their own books.
Wanna take a wild guess who invented the term "Semitic." liberal?
1879 statute of the Antisemitic League, the organization which first popularized the term.
You were saying, liberal?
You do realize that people existed in Africa before "western civilization" invented "race science", right?
Please take a moment to appreciate just how garbage your understanding of history really is. You know what they say - acknowledging your condition is the first step toward recovery.
We're not talking about race science we're talking about hatred for Jews existing long before the concept of 'the west'. You're either willfully ignorant of non Western countries xenophobia or you're an apologist. Sounds like a pretty liberal stance to me, liberal.
PThen you should have no problem proving it, should you?
Yeah... attempting to excuse the west's invention of white supremacism and antisemitism by pretending "everybody else was doing it, too" is about as ahistorical and apologetic as it gets, lib.
So yes, you are actively pushing propaganda. Goodbye
Yeah it was actually rather easy, just one Google search away to know you're spouting bullshit.
Source: The History of Antisemitism, Classical Period (Wikipedia)
I don't think I saw the commenter you're replying to ever try to excuse Western White Supremacism, or say they didn't invent it. I think they were merely pointing out that there's been anti-jewish hatred for far longer than there's been a "West".
Thank you for being the only sane person in this thread 😭
Maybe try reading your own sources next time.
From your own source:
Yet more from your own source:
And yet more from your own source:
And the most important bit you and the other libs on here are so desperate to ignore (italics mine for the terminally bewildered):
Are you starting to see a pattern yet, lib? Or do you still want to pretend that western "race science" can simply by swept under the rug by appealing to "everyboy-was-doing-it-ism"?
Why the fuck are you talking about race science still? I haven't brought it up or said something about it once. Why do you think I'm trying to ignore race science or say the West didn't invent it?
Maybe you read your own quote. There'd be no reason to call it a new manifestation if it was the first manifestation ever. Sure you can move the goalpost and say you were only ever arguing about racist science from the 1800s, or you can realize that we've been talking about hatred of Jews, and literally every quote I gave was about that, and that it's existed for thousands of years.
Gee... now why would we, living in a society that is so thoroughly defined by the tenets of scientific racism that it literally dictates the very way in which we see the world need to talk about said scientific racism?
Maybe you want to take a wild guess, liberal?
Genius - I was reading your source. You know - the source where a whole lot of historians seem completely hamstrung by not even being able to discern what actually qualifies as antisemitism and what doesn't?
Hold on - I'll give you a clue, okay? Fill in the blanks here.
The very concept of "Semitism" is a r _ c _ _ l _ z _ d one.
Are you starting to see it now, lib?