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[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

That’s great.

Might say almost all the benefits. Or all the benefits that are reasonable given we have to share our planet with others.

Like, it’s too great of a privilege to be able to park an emission-spewing cage in a garage and walk directly into a first floor kitchen to load the fridge with groceries. (Plus stairs are healthy anyway. Not referring to disabled folks or special circumstances of course.) I can’t say it’s not a benefit of a single family home, but easy to argue it’s an unjust enrichment for any one able-bodied person at the expense of others and the environment.

Glad you found such amazing and comparatively equitable housing 😃

Edit: remembered many town homes can offer easy grocery loading with their first-floor kitchens! Then you’re just missing a handful of windows on one or both sides. Big apartments should def be much more of a reasonable option, still, for a given footprint.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, if you want to be privileged not to use stairs, once the housing gets dense enough they start putting in elevators...

[–] JDubbleu@programming.dev 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Thanks! The whole street we live on are similar units and they're genuinely awesome. Everyone has balconies for plants, and if you want to chill in some grass there are great parks within a 10 minute walk. They would definitely pose a problem for the less able bodied, but the hills of San Francisco aren't very friendly either. Our unit is one of the two at ground level so groceries aren't a problem, but we don't have a car so grocery trips are frequent and small anyway (we also run a HelloFresh discount scheme). Highly recommend giant concrete buildings. They're a little industrial looking but damn are they great.

We lived in a townhome before actually and it was pretty good as well, but the sound proofing just wasn't there unfortunately. Not awful but nothing compared to our current place.

[–] astraeus@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is when we find out rent is $4000/month

[–] JDubbleu@programming.dev 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Places like this are only expensive in the first place because everyone builds single family homes that use up tons of space. Then we run out of land and the price of everything skyrockets and only then do cities start building vertical. This is largely the problem with affordable housing in the US, but we can't have property values go down because real estate has become an alternative stock market I guess.