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at this point I'm open to chinese world hegemony if it means I get a house, a union, and a carbon neutral economy
China has aggressive eminent domain, no independent unions, just one state permitted “union,” and is still the world’s biggest polluter with emissions that are not on the decline.
Which makes it a pretty safe bet they wouldn't actually end up supporting China and this is just hyperbole.
obviously I'll be throwing bombs if it actually happens
Even Chinese people don’t want to be living in China. See Hong Kong and Taiwan.
Taiwan is literally just not in China
Is that statement supported by any sources?
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2024/03/04/asia-pacific/young-hong-kongers-xi-china/
That's a pretty big "if"...
Union? In China unions are rare.
yeah I'd much rather see Europe do something cool
Have you looked at China today to see what each of those things looks like in China? Hint, its surprisingly worse in those 3 things than the USA, which is already a low bar.
This did prompt me to check, and China's homeownership is higher and homelessness rates are lower than in the USA, as are their per-capita carbon emissions
Dive a bit deeper into what qualifies as a "home" in China. There are certainly fine homes and I'll even say the majority of homes would fall into this. However, 1/3 of China is rural. A portion of that have open fires and no running water, yet is still meeting the definition of a "home". I will say I do like China's housing subsidy to the poor, however.
That's one measure, and a valid one. However, if we're chasing solving carbon we need two things. Identify and solve the largest producers of CO2.
1 China 32.88%
2 United States of America 12.6%
3 India 6.99%
4 Russia 4.96%
Here's the USA's CO2, on the way down:
Here's China's CO2, on the way up:
It's okay because they'll never have to know about the slave labor because it's illegal to report on once you're under their rule.