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G7 countries agree to shut all their coal power plants within the next 10 years (theprogressplaybook.com)
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[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yea that's horseshit.

Bet the land isn't even that valuable. Old power station land probably not even close to an urban hub. Who wants that?

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

This is legit the picture they've got on their site trying to sell it.

I'm going to guess it ends up being an ASDA warehouse or something.

Edit: I forgot HS2 was supposed to stop right next to it, before it was cancelled. It might have been worth something then. But now it's just some coal dust polluted land. I'm guessing they're not going to be allowed to sell it for housing due to that.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh the HS2 think maybe could have done something good. Might have been worth removing tonnes of soil and replacing it with tonnes of soil.

Can't be remotely as valuable now. HS2 was such a cock up. I'm actually reading a book about railways. Fuck could the Victorians get stuff done. Pick and shovel, no messing.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Given HS2 has already cost more than most European countries spend doing entire network expansions I'm pretty sure it was a massive success for its intended purpose.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The UK does things like include railways stations in the project, European countries don't. Hence the large cost difference.

But it needs to be done. We still have lines that are 150 years old. It will be worth it.

Even the shinkansen was over budget and unpopular when being built. Now nobody would argue it wasn't amazing.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Yeh but its like an order of a magnitude of difference, we're spending more than its costing Italy to build a subway through rome which requires a full on archiological dig every 20 feet.