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[–] r_se_random@sh.itjust.works 27 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The Gaza genocide did not start on Oct 7, much like the Russian incursion on Unkraine did not start in Jan 2022. Both of those are tremendous blights on human rights and should be equally condemned.

Of course, voting for Biden is the only stable option as much as one may lament that it shouldn't be.

[–] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 0 points 6 months ago

The Gaza genocide did not start on Oct 7, much like the Russian incursion on Unkraine did not start in Jan 2022.

This is very very true, and i didnt mean to imply otherwise. Ive been hating on the apartheid state in israel for a very very long time now, and as someone born in Poland, i need no reminders of the evil the russian state causes both at home and abroad. I highly appreciate the added clarity, i should have been more clear in the first place.

Both of those are tremendous blights on human rights and should be equally condemned.

Theyre both deserving of equal condemnation insofar as both are crimes against humanity, but the one is a much more slippery slope towards more genocide than i think many in the states realize. Russian imperial sentiments towards Poland, Lithuania, and Finland (of the very next in line) have been painfully clear to anyone paying attention to the past 100 years of history, and doubly so to anyone aware of "Foundations of Geopolitics."

Im not trying to say that the death of one group is worse than anothers, but i am saying that one conflict is a direct precursor to (for the modern age) unprecedented levels of death and destruction.

I am also willing to elaborate that sucking apartheid israels proverbial dick is something the US has been doing since before most of us were born, and that bidens stance on israel is less than par for the course in that hes the first head of state to outright say things like, "maybe israel should hold new elections bc of how fucked up their treatment of Palestinians is." Thats less than anyone wants or especially needs, but it does show represent more wavering from democratic leadership than one would expect. It also is further proof that the lemmy trolls telling u that the dems are getting more rightwing are full of it. We're on the cusp of the reins being passed on from the old generation onto the new. I agree biden shouldnt be the choice in a sane world, but a sane world it is not, and we can hope for far more with the boomers coming out of power so long as our democracy isnt just pissed the fuck away.

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Only stable option is supporting genocide? Do you hear how you are evil?

[–] r_se_random@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The other candidate will also support the Gaza genocide. Again, it's unfortunate that both candidates are evil. And supporting the lesser evil is a bad long term strategy.

But, here we are.

[–] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

There is no path to success here. Moderates, liberals and Joe Biden have made sure of that.