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Seen a lot of posts on Lemmy with vegan-adjacent sentiments but the comments are typically very critical of vegan ideas, even when they don't come from vegans themselves. Why is this topic in particular so polarising on the internet? Especially since unlike politics for example, it seems like people don't really get upset by it IRL

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[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I really appreciate how you completely distilled my life in one comment without any understanding of the context. You basically did the exact same thing. That I was saying I found hurtful in my comment. Thanks

[–] icesentry@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What? I did none of that? I didn't distill your entire life based on a single comment. All I'm saying is that high calorie food is not limited to animal products and saying it's the reason you eat meat is weird. The reason you eat meat is your soy allergy, not any kind of high calorie need. There might be other reasons too, I'm not denying that, you just didn't give any other, but the first one you mentioned is the calorie amount and that's just a bullshit reason.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah there are other reasons but you know I didn't really wanted to share them before. And now with your reaction I definitely don't want to share them. Also you do know your maintenance diet is just the calories you need for your basic metabolic needs. It doesn't take into account any calories needed to gain weight (something I have been trying to do all my life) or any activity. I remember days where I could have multiple 1200 to 1500 calories meals and still have snacks in between because I would get hungry between meals.

You call bs on me without having context. Yeah I didn't share context for reasons. Maybe you shouldn't attack someone when they say they have been attacked in the exact same way and found it hurtful.

[–] icesentry@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I don't need context to know that eating 3000 calories is doable on a vegan diet. Not everything is about you. I specifically said, multiple times, that the only part I'm arguing is that you said needing a lot of calories is a reason to eat animal products. On its own it just isn't true at all. You could need 1500 calories or 5000, it would still be possible for a human being to live on a vegan diet. It's completely irrelevant to why you can't eat a vegan diet. Like I said already, I'm sure there a reasons why you can't eat a vegan diet and that's completely fine, but needing 3000 calories is not a reason to not eat a vegan diet for anyone, including you.

I don't know why you want to talk about maintenance calories vs calories to gain weight. It still doesn't matter what the number is or for what reason you picked the number, you can eat any amount of calories you need on a vegan diet. You yourself probably can't because of your allergy and other factors, but not because of the caloric content of vegan food. I just don't know why you think calories are even relevant when talking about whether or not you eat a vegan diet.