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Google is coming in for sharp criticism after video went viral of the Google Nest assistant refusing to answer basic questions about the Holocaust — but having no problem answer questions about the Nakba.

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[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Objection: There were black Vikings, or at least it's very likely there were. Probably not a lot of them, though.

[–] hibsen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

...I would like to know more. Is it like cultural similarities between seafaring peoples in different locations or have there just always been black people in Viking locations and some of them were also Vikings?

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Here's a Smithsonian article: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/dna-analysis-reveals-vikings-surprising-genetic-diversity-180975865/

Here's a different one, from... i dunno the site but this roughly reflects my understanding: https://scandinaviafacts.com/were-the-vikings-black/

I think generic testing is pretty suspect but at the same time we have more than just that to suggest this.

Remember, also, that the Vikings (like other people of their era) didn't have an understanding of race in the sense we do today. Surely they had some concept of people having different skin color (they traveled enough) and of family lineage but the pseudoscientific idea of race theory has yet to be invented.

Anyway we can be pretty confident Viking slaves (thralls) were sometimes non-white and we know thralls could buy their freedom and free people could take up viking (the profession) so it stands to reason that there could be some. That plus old burial sites suggest that wasn't just a theory but something that happened. i suspect the culture at the time was even more heterogenous than we would think just from that, though it seems like the white skinned types were still the majority considering modern Scandinavians.

[–] hibsen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

This is so cool. Thank you!