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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Every once in a while I'd watch Discovery and think oooh this part of this episode is good, they're hitting their stride! They're figuring out what works and what doesn't!

And then it just collapses back into mediocrity or annoyance.

At least SNW has been almost entirely excellent, IMO.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

SNW, Lower Decks and Prodigy have all been fantastic, it’s kind of a bummer Disco is the only one to five seasons so far

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I've not seen Prodigy yet, and I mostly love LD, although it can be a bit too rick and mortyish for me sometimes. I honestly get the feeling that at any moment Mariner could shout "Wubalubadubdub!! [burp]"

I guess that makes sense because they poached some of the people that made R&M and the network only greenlit LD because they wanted to capture the success of R&M.

SNW is excellent.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Pike and crew are the best part of Discovery, SNW is miles better. Prodigy is so damn good and more Janeway! LD can feel like that but it’s all rapid fire Trek stuff, I rotate through the series’ as the bedtime show and I’ll rewatch an episode of LD and catch a TOS or VOY reference I missed the first time, it’s a Trek fan show that goes to 11 with the memes

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

LD pulls a bit of The Orville bait-and-switch where the humor never goes away, but there's clearly Star Trek bones under there and over the course of the first season it commits more to that than to being an anarchic romp. Frankly, while I enjoy both, I like LD a lot more than the Orville, which has some of the worst acting I've ever seen on network television, tends to resolve most (though not all) moral dilemmas by just aggressively picking a side, and cannot escape Seth MacFarlane's obsession with American pop culture, circa 1950-2000.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago

The finale of S1 of SNW is top-tier star trek IMO. They managed to show that even though Pike did everything "right" from his own frame of reference (on the basis that violence can escalate to war and war is to be avoided at all costs so violence must be extremely measured) . The Romulans are operating from a completely different frame, where not pressing an advantage is fatal weakness.

Pike was just not the right man for the job despite his intentions.