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[–] poorlytunedAstring@lemmy.world 83 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Right when we literally need to chill, they keep inventing nonsense that is somehow worse. Crypto is literally just machines wasting energy on purpose to create false scarcity, it was already a worst case scenario for truly pointless excess emissions but by god, they managed to top it, this place is going to be a raisin with dead oceans.

Of course, anyone who does anything less than suck the dick of this AI is a reactionary ignorant peasant, at least with crypto everyone agreed it was lame, now we're back to the iPhone fuck-you-only-change-allowed-keep-up-granny bullshit that lead to everyone but you knowing everything about you, so they can exploit and even criminalize the behavior your phone tells them about. Never the change we need, though. Just whatever makes your stupid line go up.

I guess. Glad I'm not having kids. That's the only fucking downward pressure on future emissions that's happening, on any meaningful scale. I can't wait to see what sort of shitty boilerplate copy and fake fucking pictures makes all this CO2 worthwhile. I'm sure the problem is me, and my Luddite, unseasoned irrational fear.

[–] SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Crypto is literally just machines wasting energy on purpose to create false scarcity

A monetary system that is designed to lead to eternal, cancerous growth through intentionally inflating the money supply is far worse.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I'd love to see any evidence or logical arguments that an inflationary economy is worse than a deflationary one.

[–] SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’d love to see any evidence or logical arguments that an inflationary economy is worse than a deflationary one.

Don't you understand that artificially induced unlimited growth is bad? It's not about inflation or deflation, but the outcome.

https://www.ecb.europa.eu/mopo/strategy/pricestab/html/index.en.html

The main task of the ECB is to maintain price stability. The ECB’s Governing Council considers that price stability is best maintained by aiming for 2% over the medium term. Price stability creates conditions for more stable economic growth

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I don't disagree with you on that. I didn't think your first comment quite conveyed this nuance, and deflationary economies are terrible for everyone.

[–] SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

deflationary economies are terrible for everyone

That's a myth spread by modern monetary theorists because they only understand the economy from an inflationary perspective. Economies worked fine for millennia without inflationary money.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't think local economies from millennia ago are similar enough to compare to modern global economies with our current population boom. I think we could for sure have a different approach if our population was stable or decreasing.

[–] SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

worked fine for millennia without inflationary money

That means until the early 1900s or 1970s when inflation went into overdrive.

our current population boom

Huh what?

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

That means until the early 1900s or 1970s

What a wide window, but I'd like to point out that the baby boomers generation happened right around this time.

Huh what?

Fertility rates and total population numbers are not the same thing.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Inequality since Nixon because of the Cantillon effect

[–] kn98@feddit.nl 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I agree with your first two paragraphs.

The third, well, it’s your choice to choose not to have children. That’s fine and I understand. But people shouldn’t feel obligated not to get children to save the climate.

Not that you’re suggesting that, just clarifying.

[–] TaterTurnipTulip@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not about to say people can't have kids, but they should really do their best to truly understand the future that awaits those kids. That temperature line is going to keep going up (except in certain areas when the AMOC collapses). Things will be worse and no one is coming to save us. Deciding to bring a new life into that future is a serious ethical and moral choice.

[–] kn98@feddit.nl 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Believing we’re living in the end of times is nothing new. Up til now, it never turned out true.

[–] TaterTurnipTulip@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Sure, and I'm not calling it the end times. But things will continue to get worse as carbon accumulates and causes temperatures to rise.

Having a child has and always will be a moral and ethical choice (for those who have a choice) and it should not be taken lightly. But there are different stakes now than before. And we still haven't gotten rid of the looming shadow of nuclear annihilation, we've only added to the ways we can destroy ourselves.