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[–] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The argument is always the same. The CHUDS don't want to see black people, women, the gays, etc.

[–] Lurra@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Actually was expecting a Japanese man and woman to choose from.

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There's a playable Japanese woman in parallel to the Black man but I guess women don't count because gAmErS.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Wait the black character is optional??? That would make this extra petty.

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So far it looks like they both take part in the story, with their own sections to play through. The character introduction video seems to say you might have sections where you chose between offensive or stealth approach so you'll switch characters, but they want you to experience both so there will most likely be sections that force the use of one or the other.

People who still complain are just saying they refuse to play a Black man at all, so that's still a trash take.

[–] RoosterBoy@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why does the black man have to be the offensive fighter? Is Ubisoft implying black people are violent and can't be sneaky?

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The black guy is Yasuke, a historical figure who fought as a samurai for Oda Nobunaga. While it's pretty stereotypical, it's also accurate to have Yasuke as the combat character if they're splitting combat and stealth. I mean, it's also pretty stereotypical to have a woman as the stealth character, which they've basically already done twice. Elise in Unity, while non-playable, was decidedly less combat focused and more stealthy and diplomatic while Arno fought. In Syndicate, Elise was the stealth character and Jacob was the combat character.

In short, it's probably less that he's black and more that the formula has the man be the combat character and the woman be the stealth character.

[–] RoosterBoy@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Well then they are sexist. Why does the man have to be the offensive fighter? Is Ubisoft implying men are violent and can't be sneaky? They also seem to be implying women can't be strong and defend themselves.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I'd argue it's less sexism and more following a cliche. It's a way more pervasive pattern than you likely expect. It's so common that TV Tropes has an entire page for it, or the general dynamic, at least. Sure, the cliche is sexist, but it's also one of those things that people will unconsciously default to even when they know it's a thing.

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Kassandra and Eivor (canonically the woman version) exist, your argument is invalid.

Also I assumed the comment about the Black guy being violent was a joke, but we have the historical document that says Oda was impressed with Yasuke because (among other reasons) he was as strong as 10 men, so it makes sense.

Also the use of a kannabo is sick AF, I'm already 90% sold just for that gameplay.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

They’re parallel protagonists. There will be mandatory story missions for both of them, but outside of that you can be either. I’m assuming GTA V style

[–] Lurra@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

Yeh I know, I'm a lady myself ☺️

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Chuds want to see women, just scantily-clad and helpless.

[–] JamesFire@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I mean, me too, but only if they're into it.