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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 4 months ago (18 children)

And you are implying that people fighting back against a genocidal aparthied state is equivalent to said genocide.

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee -4 points 4 months ago (17 children)

It does get complicated when Hamas claims to want the death or displacement of all the Jews in Israel. Both peoples have been failed by their leadership. You can't fight back against one genocide with a different genocide and expect anything to improve.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (15 children)

Hamas is a creation of Israel's genocide and aparthied. Eliminate the genocide and aparthied, and Hamas is forced to either change character or crumble.

This is an unequal conflict in every measure, equalizing the sides is genocide denial.

[–] newDayRocks@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure where you see any evidence of Hamas needing to change if they theoretically won the conflict. They absolutely would inflict a genocide of given the chance. To deny this is naive at best but most certainly just dishonest.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why do you believe Hamas has this stance?

[–] newDayRocks@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

History.

I would like you to honestly state that you believe Hamas would not delete Israel and all the Jews there if given the chance.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

What specifically? "History" is vague as fuck.

I believe that if you gave Hamas a "delete Israel" button right this second they would press it, because Israel is committing a genocide and intends on continuing said genocide with approval from the US.

I believe that if Israel were to cease genocide and reverse their apartheid policies, and Israel were abolished and replaced with a secular democratic state, they would be fine.

Do you think that German Jews after the Holocaust tried to genocide the rest of Germany?

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