No? Who are the self-declared Russian propagandists?
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Liberals and purging socialists, history is a spiral.
China's a socialist country on the path to communism. Newsweek is mocking social democrats by depicting them as though they are socialists and communists. The implication is that they are socialists, and not social democrats.
Are we in agreement, then? Reading your comment, it seems you think they are socialists.
Socialist democracy is just democracy in socialist countries, which has nothing to do with the article or those depicted on the cover. I thought you were talking about social democracy, considering these are social democrats.
Socialism is inherently democratic, and is also inherently a pre-communist, transitional form of society. Social democracy is not "socialist democracy," it is capitalism with welfare.
- Yes
- Yes
- No, but I support a mass library system
- No, I try to avoid Starbucks to begin with
- Yes
- No, but this is irrelevant
- Nationalization in capitalist states is not socialism, just like marketization in socialist states is not capitalism. Washington owning Intel would be better for them, but this is a social democratic reformist measure, not a socialist one.
- Never been on X/Twitter
- No
- No
- Yes
- In a socialist society? Yes. In the present-day? More than a private company, sure.
- Yes.
- I hate both.
- Yes.
- I'd do it if they were the same price, of course I'd do it if they were cheaper.
- Yes
- Yes, but more than that the entire capitalist state needs to be broken and replaced with a socialist one, not simply tweaking the system that co-evolved with capitalism from its inception
- Kinda? Odd question.
- Yes.
Overall, completely horrendous tabloid quiz.
You really don't have any clue what you're talking about, do you? You were the one that brought up the Duma, I referenced actual scholars, including firmly anti-communist scholars like Kotkin. Truth doesn't matter to you in the slightest, just using historic tragedy to bat for billionaires and a predatory system of capitalism. You aren't even trying to convince anyone, so why bother?
Would be better, but is both near-impossible to pass with the current state of the US Empire's falling global domination, and would still perpetuate imperialism if it was passed without a transition to socialism.
The spectre haunts! 👻
I think we all want that, right now this is bourgeois infighting over the desire to Balkanize Russia and the desire to depress the price of diesel.
I cited multiple sources, and you seem to only be responding to one of my points when I responded to the entirety of yours. You also seem to have your talking points confused, because the Russian Duma does not say that the 1930s famine was a genocide:
The Russian Federation officially says that the Holodomor is not a genocide.[99] The State Duma passed a resolution in 2008 stating that the Holodomor should not be considered genocide, stating in part: "There is no historical proof that the famine was organized along ethnic lines. Its victims were millions of citizens of the Soviet Union, representing different peoples and nationalities living largely in agricultural areas of the country."[100] The Russian government condemned the Soviet regime's "disregard for the lives of people in the attainment of economic and political goals", along with "any attempts to revive totalitarian regimes that disregard the rights and lives of citizens in former Soviet states", while stating that "there is no historic evidence that the famine was organized on ethnic grounds."[101]
Per Wikipedia. The right-wing post-soviet government declared it a problem of mismanagement to discredit socialism as socialism is still popular in Russia and would hurt their present capitalist class, but were insistent even then not to call it a genocide, because there's no evidence. Even Kotkin admits that it wasn't intentional nor engineered. You have no proof nor any idea what you're talking about, again, it's all reflex from you. It's just MAGA on your part. Again, what's the point? To convince me? Never going to happen with this level of "argument." To convince others? Nobody else is here agreeing with you.
Since you seem to want direct sources, here's a link to 3 PDFs of Tauger's work, and you can check historians like Grover Furr's work on the 1930s famine as well. I simply went with Tauger because he is more accepted among liberal historians as the foremost expert, but if we reference explicitly communist historians there are far more.
For example, Chinese scholars like Li Yan and Shen Lihua both affirm Tauger's point, that there was no deliberate famine, but instead that it was a combination of weather disaster, sabotage, and mismanagement. None of this points to genocide or settler-colonialism, in fact the Soviet government was overwhelmingly supportive of Ukraine throughout its existence and treated it like the poster child of soviet socialism.










I'm neither Russian nor a propagandist for Russia, nor am I a cockroach, nor bad faith, nor do I use LLMs for the comments I write. If you just accuse any communists of being bad faith, Russian, etc. on reflex then how is that not bad faith?