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Each of these reads like an extremely horny and angry man yelling their basest desires at Pornhub’s search function.

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[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 138 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Honestly, if the combination of AI porn + good AR + haptic fleshlights gets us to a point where horny single men with limited real-world romantic prospects can have fulfilling sex lives without having to bug any actual living women to attain them, I think the world will be a better place.

[–] disposabletentacle@kbin.social 74 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah, but with the caveat that this will only make the world a better place if society chose to implicitly allow this, and actively chose not to disparage, mock, and exclude those people who want to go this path. Which, based on everything we've ever seen about society, is not going to happen.

[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

True, but people already do 80% of that - I don't think the stigma attached to "AI-generated porn that talks to you and responds to your requests" is likely to be meaningfully greater than the stigma attached to regular porn, or to an OnlyFans where you're doing the same thing with an actual woman but clamoring for her attention with a bunch of other guys.

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[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Uh, based on the realistic fuck robots that are hitting the market I don't think you have to worry about society telling you that you can't have VR sex with a giant hentai squid with massive tits. Just maybe don't do it in your parents living room this time.

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[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[–] icepuncher69@sh.itjust.works -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean... its not like masturbation isnt already mocked and shamed already around the world, its not like thats ever stoped the more perverted ones that have weird kinks. And even if theres legislations against it (which there hasnt been any serious one afak since the middle ages) the wankers are always gonna win, probably because they have more stamina.

Edit: now im not saying they should be legislated, imho the government has no bussines on ones sex life as long as all parts involved are concenting adults or being solo, just that they always have and probably will be shamed, why? I dont know, but probably religion has something to do there. I wont judge anybody though.

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure "pervert" is the best word to describe someone who masturbates.

[–] icepuncher69@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

True, but my scope was more focused to someone thats gonna treat themselves to a vr suported oppaibot2100, with many features including blah blah blah. You get the drill, the opaibot is getting a diferent drill in another way though.

[–] applejacks@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] roboticide@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Some might think so.

I remember a guy on reddit a few years ago arguing vehemently that their hand was better than an actual living woman's vagina, to say nothing of a Fleshlight.

The denial was strong in that individual's case, but if enough incels are already in that deep it's probably gonna be enough for many of them.

[–] Stanwich@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Except instead they will treat ai girls as filthy as they want and then expect all women to act like that. Then not understand why they don't........ yeah pretty sure that's what's going to happen.

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just like video games taught me to shoot everything

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No it's much more like the way porn already messes up a lot of men's perception of women and sex

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

As disney and romantic movies did with womens idea of relationships

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

How does AI impact this anymore than real girls? If anything it could cut down on sex trafficking.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Makes sense. I grew up playing videogames where I would shot stuff that was in my way. That is why in real life I use a gun to get thru traffic. I also played a game for a while where I rode on the back of a lizard and ate mushrooms to grow larger. Which is pretty much my typical weekday.

For you see I have not hit the level of mental development of most 3 year olds and can not separate our playtime from the real world. Just like the hypothetical people in your example.

Now if you excuse me I plan to make bricks vanish by arranging them in a straight line wall-to-wall in my house.

[–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Without question. The ability to have sex with something isn't going to prevent them from being socially dysfunctional and would, if anything, make it noticeably worse. You're getting off, but you still have issues talking to the other sex. They're just easier to avoid addressing now and your dolls don't demand basic respect.

I don't think I'd come out too much against it, personally. People got biological imperatives, I'm not gonna protest against dildos. But the financial and mental health crises both remain and can't be circumvented like that.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

I'm already having the mental health crisis, would be nice to have the immersive VR porn to go with it tbh. People in this thread are mostly talking about incels but, like, there's many men with horrible social issues who are self aware. I don't have a relationship, I think I would be a terrible partner and me being single is for the best. I still am lonely sometimes, but accepting it and moving on helps a lot. It still would be nice to have something like this because I would be able to have some companionship without having to be in someone else's life.

Before anyone tells me to go to therapy, I had a few sessions and then my therapist went on long term sick leave and I don't think I have the strength to try again. It hurts less to just accept and live with my problems.

[–] clutch@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

You're getting off, but you still have issues talking to the other sex.

You just described Japan

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd push back on that and say that's fear mongering. The scenario you're describing MAY occur IF "they" don't witness social interactions with IRL girls at all, and that includes video/virtual meetups, video recordings of IRL girls interacting etc.

"They" would have to have never seen a female person in any media other than their AI sexbots, which I find incredibly unlikely that this could become the norm.

[–] czarrie@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it's a great idea, if these people don't, like, interact with the world writ large

[–] whatisallthis@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The psychological ramifications of that are immense. It would destroy people. It would be no different than any other drug.

[–] FilthyHands@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

I for one welcome our new sexbot overlords.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I don't see how. It is just porn but more specific. You could get the same results before this but with a tiny bit more work. It should have as much impact on humanity as did on-demand streaming did. On the individual level this could maybe put an end to all the not-so-ethically produced porn.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because what the world needs now is an even more disengaged, disinterested, and misanthropic portion of the population.

[–] elouboub@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The human reproductive rate will plummet once we can have VR with sensory input.

Future Sex is a great anthology series about it.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

The birth rate is low enough already

[–] thebrownhaze@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The complete opposite is true. That would be a death of dispar filled distopia. Do we not have enough virgins jacking to internet porn all day with crippling depression.

People need relationships not better internet porn

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh ok, let me just put this genie back in the bottle then.../s

[–] thebrownhaze@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Would men or the 70s traded in their lives for sexbots I wonder

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