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[–] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Yep- sorry nobody cares what you think deep down inside, snowflake. Only matters how you vote. Biden or Trump- plus all the downballot stuff you don't care enough to think about. Pitch a hissy fit if you want but that's your reality.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ok gee golly mister, you convinced me to support a war criminal! I'm sure he'll win now that you've secured my support :)

[–] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Of course you won't vote for Biden. Choosing the lesser evil in an evil world takes a lot of strength and you're obviously very weak.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml -4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Wait, I thought Biden was good, actually. Isn't he like our best president since FDR or something? Now you're telling me he's evil??

[–] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Yeah he's evil as Knievel, Jumps busses and shit. But you can't vote anyway so doesn't matter.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can I make a suggestion?

Grow Up.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Grown ups know that sometimes genocide is cool and good, actually.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I think you illustrate my point.

Grown ups know that life is full of hard choices and that it's pretty damned rare that you get everything you want in any situation. We also tend to understand that there are many things that we cannot change or can only change a little, sometimes over a long period of time.

Choosing not to choose or "standing on principal" is often counter-productive.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Some principles ought to be inflexible. It's kind of the definition of a principle. I know what compromise is, and I know right from wrong. It's wrong to compromise on certain things. If growing up means forgetting that, then miss me with growing up.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The problem is they are not inflexible. You compromise ALL the time.

For example, you are perfectly willing to overlook all the other genocide in the world.

Think about it.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What genocide in the world can I do anything about? My country does most of them, and I never support them. I've been protesting my whole life. I am always against genocide. That is a principle. Not one you seem to share, but to each their own I guess.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So in other words, you choose to be flexible with your principles because there's so much in the world you can't do much about. All you can do is chip away. You've chosen this particular battle for reasons, but not others. Conveniently ignoring the consequences of that choice.

I rest my case.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

In what way am I flexible in my principles? I've never voted for a genocidaire in any other country either.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

Grown ups know that life is full of hard choices and that it’s pretty damned rare that you get everything you want in any situation.

The last time centrists didn't get literally everything they wanted, they formed a PAC to get McCain elected.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

sorry nobody cares what you think deep down inside, snowflake.

I'm not usually a "both sides" kinda guy, but you sound exactly like a MAGAt.

[–] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah you saw 'snowflake' and got too triggered to consider the rest of the comment so now I'm MAGA. That's not atypical.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Blue maga. Red maga. Both are fanatics devoid of nuance.

[–] stanleytweedle@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

lol- 'Red\Blue maga'. You're entertaining.