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Joe Biden is correct that violent crime is near a 50-year low

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you seriously need evidence that most people don't research what they hear on the news?

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Because not everything that appears intuitive, is fact. This is how disinformation is spread. It is a vulnerability in the human psychology.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you were right and people researched things they heard on the news, disinformation wouldn't spread. And Biden wouldn't have to say that violent crime is historically low.

I mean I have no idea why you think he would bother saying it if most people researched this stuff.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps to reiterate that he’s bringing value to the US for the upcoming election?

Perhaps to cover all the bases, for those that don’t look at fact/evidence (meaning not necessarily a majority of people not looking at fact)

I mean the possibilities are endless, i feel like you’re taking a pretty narrow view to this subject

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You have not explained how disinformation spreads if people research what they hear on the news.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That wasn’t the topic of discussion. You implied that a majority of people don’t research their views without anything other than anecdotal evidence

You tried to pivot to this other topic, I did not follow it.

I can agree with “at least some people do not properly vet and research their views” but I cannot subscribe to “most”

Make sense?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I just looked back at our conversation. Can you please show, with context, where I implied such a thing?

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

https://infosec.pub/comment/9572046

I specifically mention this point and you make zero effort to correct or modify what you’re saying so I’m left to believe that it is at least partially aligned with what you’re saying.

Feel free to take the easy way out and argue pedantics - our conversation was pretty short so if you actually looked through the convo, I suspect you ignored this point or are purposefully playing on this point to push yourself out of the waters a la pedantic argument.

Think this conversation is spent now. Thanks.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

So the answer is no, I never implied such a thing. I did, however, suggest that people do not look at crime statistics.

And that is a fact.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585