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The co-founder of failed cryptocurrency exchange FTX pleaded not guilty to a seven count indictment charging him with wire fraud, securities fraud and money laundering.

An attorney for FTX co-founder Sam Bankman-Fried said in federal court Tuesday his client has to subsist on bread, water and peanut butter because the jail he's in isn't accommodating his vegan diet.

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[–] electrogamerman@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No one is forcing him to do anythig. He has bread and water, or he is supposed to receive a special vegan menu?

Edit: Also imagine the girl that killed many new born babies, would you also be like: "give her a vegan diet, poor girl!?" BFR

[–] BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He is not supposed to be malnourished. If the option is malnutrition, or disregard of ethical beliefs, I'd argue they actually are forcing him.

[–] electrogamerman@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Would you think the same if a mass murderer was requesting vegan food? For example the girl that killed new born babies on purpose, would you also be like: "poor girl, give her a vegan menu!"

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What problem does feeding a mass murderer dead animals solve exactly? Do you not think it's disrespectful to animals to treat them as fodder for petty vengeance?

[–] monarchsonvacay@adding.space 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It solves the problem of not allowing them to use suckers like you to manipulate everyone else to doing what he wants.

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If I had to rely on that much hyperbole to make the point, I'd reconsider my position, myself.

[–] monarchsonvacay@adding.space -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's obvious that's what's happening. Vegans are coming out in droves arguing people shouldn't ever be put in jail simply because SBF is a vegan and they care more about their own than anyone else. They're circling the wagons around this guy, and they never considered that he could just be lying, exaggerating or purposefully playing to them to get them to do exactly what they're doing.

What they're doing isn't accomplishing any good. Neither are you when you defend them. All it's causing is discord.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vegans are coming out in droves arguing people shouldn’t ever be put in jail simply because SBF is a vegan and they care more about their own than anyone else.

no one said that. you're making that up.

[–] monarchsonvacay@adding.space 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You're literally the guy who said you don't believe in rights but think people in jail should still be able to be vegan, and to another guy you admitted you don't know what should be done with people if there is no jail. You even went so far as to defend revenge while the rest of your little gang of trolls accused everyone else of being subhuman, violent, bloodthirsty savages for even thinking other people deserve to be punished. Other people of your little tribe or whatever were even arguing with CSA survivors because of it.

You need to sit down and drink yourself a nice tall glass of shut the fuck up. And take the other awful jackasses of yours out with you.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

your little gang of trolls

who is in my gang? do we get tattoos? what color bandanas?

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

And take the other awful jackasses of yours out with you.

i'm not responsible for what anyone else does.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

You’re literally the guy who said you don’t believe in rights but think people in jail should still be able to be vegan, and to another guy you admitted you don’t know what should be done with people if there is no jail. You even went so far as to defend revenge

its true.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago

Other people of your little tribe or whatever

what tribe do you think i'm in?

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You need to sit down and drink yourself a nice tall glass of shut the fuck up.

You need to sit down and drink yourself a nice tall glass of shut the fuck up.

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, people just have a principle and are applying it evenly. Even if he's lying about being vegan, there's not really a downside to giving him vegan food. It seems as if your argument rests on some notion that it hurts everyone's ego or pride or something to grant this request, because it certainly doesn't make a material difference to any of us. And you're seriously misreading people's arguments in this thread. Did your wife leave you for a vegan or something?

[–] monarchsonvacay@adding.space 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, they really are doing nothing but aiding and abetting a con man because he appealed to their pet issue to get them to do it. He already has a vegan option, it's called a PBJ. Part of being in jail means you don't get the choices you'd get out on the outside, and part of life in jail is accepting that. If he didn't want to suffer, he shouldn't have stolen billions from innocent people -- or at least went so far as to steal from other rich people.

You're just not listening because you, yourself likely are a vegan. And you don't want to admit you're getting played.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

he hasn't been convicted of anything.

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

By the same token you'd say someone doesn't get the choice to drink clean water or piss in a real toilet. You have the right to follow an obviously extant and relatively mainstream philosophy such as veganism when you're detained and it's not aiding and abetting or being played to just give him some potatoes or something. In fact you've made me laugh.

[–] mojorizer@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Yes. A convicted murderer sitting in prison is still a human being with human rights. Fuck this dehumanizing system that only knows punishment. It's no wonder that the recidivism rate in the US is one of the highest in the world.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not about the prisoner. Why are you victimizing animals to feed the other prisoners in the first place, but then acting like it's unreasonable not to do it?