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[–] Arsonistic@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

As they exist right now, definitely. But making Internet a govermentally run service is also likely to turn out bad. The best method so far, based on what other countries are doing, seems to be public infrastructure, that any ISP can then sell service through. This prevents monopolies and creates competition in the market, which tends to result in better service for the users.

Edit: public as in anybody can use it to provide service, not as in governmentally managed. Just to force a separation to prevent monopolies.

[–] jorp@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What do we need ISPs competing on if the infrastructure is run by the government? They can't increase speeds, they can't increase service availability, they'll just be getting a profit margin on top of what the government is charging them to use the communications infrastructure. I'd rather just pay the government the pre-profit amount

[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 months ago

The infrastructure would be things like fiber cable wired to each house.

But in this scenario, the ISPs would be manning the servers that your connection is routed through. So they'd still have massive influence on the speed and data.

If the government owned the servers, they could block and track down anything against state interest.

Not saying they can't do that anyways, but at least the third party makes the process more difficult, less seamless, and gives the chance of new competitors.

[–] Arsonistic@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Maybe I didn't explain it the best way possible. By public I didn't mean governmentally run, I just meant that anybody can use the infrastructure. It just forces a separation between the company doing the infrastructure and the ISPs, to prevent monopolies.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

So make the internet into a state service for ISPs? It might not be worse but it could be much better.

Imagine if they did this for water pipes.

[–] Arsonistic@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

Maybe I didn't explain it the best way. By public I didn't mean governmentally run, I just meant that anybody can use the infrastructure. It just forces a separation between the company doing the infrastructure and the ISPs, to prevent monopolies.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

They’re welcome to compete with the government utility. But I want a government utility isp. One I get a say in as a voter, not merely as a customer