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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 66 points 5 months ago (3 children)

How can you say someone is a first time offender when they have 34 counts. If I rob 34 houses before I get caught am I still a first time offender?

[–] homura1650@lemm.ee 44 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It is 34 counts, but still only a single crime. It is more analgous to robbing a single house once, but taking 34 items. Given how the bussiness records law are written, each false record is a seperate crime, but they were all done as part of the same scheme.

This is pretty common in criminal law. It is suprisingly difficult to commit only 1 crime.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, that does actually make sense.

Will be very interesting to see what the sentencing end up being, Trump really doesn't seem to have done himself any favours there by constantly attacking the judge, jury and judges family.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It won't matter. Maga fascist chuds will start the threats and everyone will back down

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The same was said about him being convicted or not, and we haven't seen the threats materialize since the verdict was announced.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Are you serious? There have been threats against judges.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

There were threats that a conviction would lead to violent retaliation, but to my knowledge none of those threats have been carried out. So why let new threats about his potential sentence influence that?

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What if you've already been found guilty of rape?

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And running a fraudulent university.

[–] BajaTacos@lemm.ee 29 points 5 months ago

And stealing funds from charities which resulted in shutting down your eponymous foundation.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

And running a fraudulent charity.

[–] BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would guess the logic behind going harder on repeat offenders is that they've already been punished once and didn't stop breaking the law, so we should punish them harder this time. Not sure that's super effective reasoning, but w/e.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Despite common opinion, courts consider prison “rehabilitative incarceration.”