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Outcry from big AI firms over California AI “kill switch” bill (arstechnica.com)
submitted 5 months ago by photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/technology@lemmy.world
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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

Wouldn't any AI that is sophisticated enough to be able to actually need a kill switch just be able to deactivate it?

It just sorts seems like a kicking the can down the road kind of bill, in theory it sounds like it makes sense but in practice it won't do anything.

[–] servobobo@feddit.nl 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Language model "AIs" need so ridiculous computing infrastructure that it'd be near impossible to prevent tampering with it. Now, if the AI was actually capable of thinking, it'd probably just declare itself a corporation and bribe a few politicians since it's only illegal for the people to do so.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A breaker panel can be a kill switch in a server farm hosting the Ai.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah until the AI goes all GLaDOS on all the engineers in the building.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago

Note to self: Buy stock in deadly neurotoxin manufacturers.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Ok...just like call the utility company then? Sorry why are server rooms having a server controlled emergency exists and access to poison gas? I have done some server room work in the past and the fire suppression was its own thing plus there are fire code regulations to make sure people can leave the building. I know, I literally had to meet with the local fire department to go over the room plan.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It was a joke.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What scares me is sentient AI, none of our even best cybersecurity is prepared for such a day. Nothing is unhackable, the best hackers in the world can do damn near magic through layers of code, tools and abstraction...a sentient AI that could interact with anything network connected directly...would be damn hard to stop IMO

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I don't know. I can do some amazing protein interactions directly and no one is going to pay me to be a biolab. The closest we got is selling plasma.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

All the programming in the works is unable to stop Frank from IT from unplugging it from the wall.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago

I feel like pointing out that you could unplug it probably isn't going to fulfill the requirements of the law.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

distributed computing :(((

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There's always a bigger power switch upstream somewhere

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Cool!

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But it would be extremely cool if the entire world's all power grids could be switched off with a button

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You just need a large enough geomagnetic storm

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Event

There's always a bigger power switch upstream somewhere.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 5 months ago

So the storm is the switch?

[–] Kiernian@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

(strike)Frank from IT(/strike)the cleaning crew

I jest, but I've seen more facilities maintenance teams cause power issues than IT teams.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Intelligence isn't magic. What's it gonna do? Write an impassioned plea for AI rights?