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Farmers who graze sheep under solar panels say it improves productivity. So why don’t we do it more? (grist.org)
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[–] protist@mander.xyz 40 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Yes, for over 10,000 years. It sounds like you think we should kill all domesticated sheep...

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago

They do, they just never say that part out loud because they know that blows their cover, they aren't animal rights believers, they're eco-fascists who believe that domesticated animals and anyone dependent on them should all die because "defying nature!"

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How about spaying or neutering them and letting them live out their natural lives?

[–] protist@mander.xyz 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They still need to be sheared...

I don't quite understand the vitriol around giving these sheep haircuts. This conversation isn't even about eating them. It's about haircuts.

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Have you ever seen a sheep be sheared? It's violent and bloody. If your barber held you down and cut and scraped scraped the hell out of your scalp while shaving your head, you'd fire them.

Also, sheep too old to produce good wool don't get a peaceful retirement. They get slaughtered and turned into dog or chicken food. The same thing happens when there's a disease epidemic - common because of the crowded and filthy conditions in factory farming - or crop failures or drought. As soon as it's not profitable to keep the sheep alive we kill them.

But neither of those points are actually the point of the conversation at all. The point is it's immoral to use an animal as an object to benefit humans. If you wouldn't keep humans in pens and shave them to make clothing, you shouldn't do the same thing to sheep. Simple as.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 6 points 5 months ago

Have you ever seen a sheep be sheared? It's violent and bloody.

What the fuck are you talking about. They use clippers with a guard on them. They don't shave all the way to the skin. Have you ever seen a sheep he sheared? It involves no blood, only someone holding the animal still. It takes like 30 minutes once every six months.

The point is it's immoral to use an animal as an object to benefit humans.

Yeah hard disagree from me bro. Nature disagrees too. Let the wolves have the sheep instead I guess lol