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"Israel presents itself as an LGBT haven in the region, but for Palestinians it offers neither refuge nor solidarity"

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[–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Homosexuality is not criminalized in Ukraine

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It’s a Christian majority though, which is in line with the argument as presented.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's far more friendly to LGBT people than other Christian countries like Serbia or Russia

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The argument is “Muslim majority countries tend to criminalize homosexuality so you shouldn’t support Palestine because it’s likely to do the same”. The current state of gay rights there isn’t relevant to the argument and not what I’m trying to draw a parallel to with the comparison.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, the argument is Hamas is anti-LGBT already

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Maybe that’s the one you want to make but it’s not the one I was commenting on.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sure, you can defeat the strawman argument. But can we attempt at discussing the strongman argument?

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If you want to discuss that go right ahead. I have not made any claim that contradicts that and have no interest in arguing against it. I suggest you do so with someone who has and does.

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes it was you were just trying to be manipulative with your answer, hamas are actively homophobic and part of an islamist movement which is incredibly homophobic - pretending not to understand this is absurd.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

I have never claimed that they weren’t those things. You are arguing against what you want me to say, rather than what i actually wrote.