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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
  • Replying to "the economy is getting better" with "how DARE you say the economy is good and all the problems are fixed, clearly that's not the case" as a way of reframing away from the conversation of whether things are getting better, or worse, and why that is. Basically interfering with the effort to understand the policies that help or hurt by simply asserting that everything's bad, so nothing being talked about can possibly be a good thing.

Let’s see if we can get through literally all of the bullet points if you want to keep the conversation going long enough; we have 3 so far I think

It’ll be an easy way to get your hours in at least

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I get it. Your lack of empathy for struggling Americans is on brand for centrist Dems.

The working class is literally telling you they're unable to afford to live. Watch this... https://youtu.be/SfesuiByA5U

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
  • Saying "well I'm not doing okay, how dare you say I'm not struggling" and getting all fucked up and angry about it, so that anyone that tells you that millions of low-income workers are making more now than they were a few years ago, like way more, and that's a good thing, looks like an asshole

You're up to 4 out of 6 but I don't feel like playing anymore. Some other time

Like I say, someone struggling, I have sympathy for. Someone lying, to try to misrepresent the economy with the ultimate goal of encouraging the election of someone who will hurt those struggling Americans in ways that will make the current struggle life look like sunshine and roses, I don't have sympathy with. Don't try to pretend you are one when you're the other.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

millions of low-income workers are making more now than they were a few years ago, like way more

Please do go ask them about their house they just bought with all this "way more" money and how now they're no longer living paycheck to paycheck. /s

Did I mention the election at all here? You realize the economy can be "doing great" (for corporations, the stock market, etc) and millions of people can still be struggling right?

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

5/6

What do you think about inflation? I don't think it's really that high, to be honest. I looked at the numbers on the Federal Reserve page, and they seem pretty reasonable to me except for the spike in 2022. What do you think about it, though?

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What do you want me to say about it? "I love inflation"? It doesn't matter what you call it to a family of four putting items back at the grocery store they can't afford.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just tell me that you're mad that CPI doesn't include housing fuel and food, or whatever

I want to get a bingo and exit the conversation

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Americans are mad the system is rigged against them and our government works for the corporations not the people. Capitalism kills.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 5 months ago

Okay I'll try for the bingo another time. It is disappointing though.