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AI is going the same way as self-driving cars...
It has the power to bring such amazing change, but greed is poisoning the technology, and it's being weaponized against the lower and middle class in disguising ways.
Shoutout to Elon for fucking up self driving cars by releasing cheap, imitation technology after his competitors spent literal decades carefully testing and perfecting genuine solutions.
Greed is why we can't have nice things... Everyone should be angrier about this stuff.
AI is and always has been a bullshit technology. Its no where near as capable as its proponents in tech industry have been claiming. Its all driven by greed to feed into a stock price frenzy but its the emperor's new clothes. In the future it may be something useful but at present even the tools that exist are unreliable and broken.
Self Drive Cars is different, very much a Tesla issue rather than generalised. Tesla has a first move advantage but then Elon Musk blew it by forcing his engineers to cut back on sensors and tech to save money because he knows best. Other self drive manufacturers are doing well and even have licenses to test their fully featured systems in multiple locations.
AI is a generally crap technology (maybe in the future it will be something useful). Self Drive is a generally myself up technology, except at Tesla where they went for the crap unworkable version.
Self-driving cars are AI. And they are butting against the Pareto Principle.
Everyone where told me it was fake marketing hype.
I love how the enemy is all powerful and easily defeatable at the same time. LLMs are singularity creating AIs, useless, hallucinating, job destroyers, potentially do everything, all at once.
Maybe different people are saying those different things.
Sure. It's all an opinion. That makes sense. Thank you for explaining how it isn't based on logic, data, or really any methodology at all. Just people arguing chocolate or vanilla or strawberry ice cream.
Everything is an opinion. You're making bets on future outcomes.
That doesn't mean that no one knows what they're talking about.
No. Everything is not an opinion. There is the real universe.
You're projecting the future. It fundamentally cannot be factual. It's a guess. Some guesses (that LLMs are a deeply flawed technology) come from a place of understanding how shit works that other guesses (LLMs are magic) don't, but the actual future impact of the tech inherently must be an opinion, regardless of how well informed it is. There is no objective truth.
(All of this is without the fact that very little of the past is super concrete either. We know specific things happened with relatively high certainty, but why is, again, always a guess.)
Hmm is this a true statement no matter what people think of it?
It has not happened yet. By definition there is no "reality".
There are merely informed opinions, uninformed opinions, and fraudulent opinions.
It's a true statement for any future event.
It doesn't soften the fact that opinions can be stupid and uninformed.
I see. So you say that any prediction about the future is subjective, except of course this prediction that you are making now? Every rule has en exception, except this rule, but if it doesn't it does and if it does than it doesnt.
Not to date you too badly but 2500 years ago is when we figured out that everythinf is subjective leads to contradictions.
No, that's not even sort of what I said. The fact that there is no inherent source of truth to compare to does not give license to idiotic takes. It doesn't invalidate people pointing out that an opinion is idiotic. It's simply an acknowledgement that multiple intelligent opinions are possible.
There's inherent uncertainty to everything, down to such an extreme level that predicting individual particles' behavior has to be probabilistic. The existence of that uncertainty doesn't prevent some statements from being stupid and wrong.
So you are saying I was wrong before?