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If that was their goal with vaping, it's been a spectacular failure. So I say they should go for it.
no it has not been a failure
the government was able to shut down most of the vape companies
some of them were very up to code being made in clean rooms good enough to make pharmaceuticals
now we have big tobacco vapes mixed in with shoddy products
have you talked to industry leaders such as business owners of some of these vape companies?
nicotine and cannabis industry is in shambles due to bad policies and laws
no wonder look at the right leaning conservatives that keep getting voted in with the latest one having a prosecutor as a vice
cannabis being rescheduled and not legalized is a trojan horse designed to make the people feel complacent and happy with only extreme regulation and the disappearance of sustainable, innovative products being the end result
I see people vaping all over the place. If their goal was to shut down the industry, that sounds like a failure to me.
This also sounds like a failure of their goal:
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/04/ftc-issues-third-report-e-cigarette-advertising-sales-us
Generally, profits of an industry the government is shutting down don't go up.
Sure the industry is gaining money, but you're ignoring specific company shutdowns and restrictions that shaped the industry out of the hands of certain players. There have been a lot of regulatory fingers in the pie, particularly above state level, that weren't aimed at making the populace safer but instead at making those companies unable to produce or sell their most popular products. There's also a lot of legal language bites like "e-cigarette" and "open container" that are seeing non-uniform interpretation in legal states, across vape legislature and cannabis legislature alike.
Draconic legislature isn't quite turning the country into a hellscape for consumers, sure. But it's clearly a possible side effect that isn't being considered, especially as states are beginning to take it upon themselves to start outlawing studied hemp-derived cannabinoids (like delta8/10 or THC-P or THC-A) that are provided for under the 2018 farm bill.
Tl;Dr while the industry is growing, it's clear it has enemies with legal power and that's the crux of the complaint.
Okay, but this is what OP said:
The vaping industry has not been shut down, it's growing, as I demonstrated. So, again, if that was their goal, it was a spectacular failure.
Cool restatement. Did you actually read what I posted instead of snipping that post though? I acknowledge it isn't working, but you can CLEARLY see intent of decisions there skewed toward market control of a new industry, especially based on the similarities (Product control focused on appeal, not risk) of legislature brought forward compared to previous concerns
I wasn't quoting you, I was quoting what OP said and why I responded to it the way I did. OP claimed the goal was to shut the vaping industry down. I showed why that wasn't true. It's not my fault if you responded to me with some unrelated point.
You don't understand my point and you wanted to dunk on someone, it's cool. Keep posting every 2 minutes without actually reading, I'm sure the karma is good for something dude
Since your point was unrelated to mine, the only thing I don't understand is why you replied to me about it.