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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

They are a nation, not a country.

“Nation” refers to a group of people who share a common culture, history, and language. It’s a term that’s often used to describe a community of people who identify with each other and have a sense of shared identity.

On the other hand, “country” refers to a geographical area that is controlled by a government. It’s a more concrete term that describes a physical location rather than a group of people.

https://thecontentauthority.com/blog/nation-vs-country

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm aware of the difference. But your own post mentions the geographical area that Palestinians govern. So I'm at a loss as to how you can day there isn't also a Palestine country?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

They only govern it because they reside in it. The governance of land is what defines the “state” in nation-state. Unlike in a country, if they leave an area, it is no longer Palestine. That’s a problem for Palestinians. If they vacate due to bombings, they forgo the right to their territory. That’s exactly why Netanyahu is trying to force evacuations. International law is against Israeli settlements in occupied Palestinian territories, not Palestine, because it is not a recognized country.

In contrast, the same actions in Ukraine do not change that it’s still Ukraine. When the Ukrainians evacuate and Russia takes control of a city, it becomes a Russian occupation of Ukraine.

I’m just trying to educate on the matter, not discredit Palestine at all, but people seem to be too sensitive to want to know the intricacies of the problem.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's just how being a country works. Of course you can't govern the area if you leave.

But I think what you're actually talking about is the Oslo accords, which are completely fucked and were supposed to be a temporary phase leading to a two state solution.

See the thing is the borders of West Bank and Gaza are well known. It's just people that try to downplay illegal settlements and land grabs that pretend they aren't well known.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

That’s simply not true. Canada’s borders are internationally recognized, even though Newfoundland is mostly unpopulated. The same can be said for Siberia in Russia.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

And Palestine.