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Calvin (from Calvin & Hobbes) sitting at a lemonade stand, smiling, with a sign that reads, "Trains and micromobility are inevitably the future of urban transportation, whether society wants it or not. CHANGE MY MIND."

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[–] daw_germany@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This comment seems to be based on the false presumption that cities and settlements cannot be transformed, however they can

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

They can, but it's a multi trillion dollar century plus endeavor that well require eminent domain millions of properties in order to make enough space for the conversion. Infrastructure still needs to go some place, and you need to replace millions of sfh with apartments. My city doesn't even have any land left to build more train lines. It's just 30 miles of gridded small lots.

[–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well that's what the climate disasters are for, to wipe the slate clean when people refuse to adapt

[–] Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We already bulldozed and rebuilt our cities once, less than a hundred years ago. See Cincinnati below:

Further, policy-wise, we don't need eminent domain. We don't need to forcefully destroy everything. We just need to abolish the restrictive zoning and parking minimums that are stopping the invisible hand of the free market from providing us with density, walkability, and transit-oriented development.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

That's not going to fly today. Today, citizens can sue the jurisdiction and actually win, unlike the 1950s or '70s. And cities aren't going to be able to target minority dominated neighborhoods like they did in the past, or they're going to be in a real shitstorm both politically and legally.

[–] daw_germany@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

30 Miles of gridded small lots -> no space to build trains 🫠